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DKG005 0012.Explanation of the second defeat..g2.0f

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如是这般从一处藏到另一处。比丘拿取他人贵重之物,若由那四种原因未经给予而取,则犯他胜罪。复次,比丘拿取他人贵重之物,若由四种原因未经给予而取,则犯他胜罪。何为四?即守护、占有、贵重、从一处藏到另一处。如何是守护?譬如人们的贵重之物,放入这样的器皿中,即放入大的铜器、铜器、陶器、箱子和皮革中,并且在那里还布置了这样的守护者,即布置了大象队、马队、车队和小的军队的驻扎地,他们在那里守护着,这便是守护。如何是占有?譬如人们的贵重之物,放入这样的器皿中,即放入大的铜器、铜器、陶器、箱子和皮革中,他们说“这些是我们的”,这样占有它们,这便是占有。如何是贵重?五摩沙迦,或超过五摩沙迦,这便是贵重。如何是从一处藏到另一处?从放置的那个地方移开,放到其他地方,这便是从一处藏到另一处。比丘拿取他人贵重之物,若由那四种原因未经给予而取,则犯他胜罪。复次,比丘拿取他人贵重之物,若由四种原因未经给予而取,则犯他胜罪。何为四?即被守护但未被占有,被占有但未被守护,贵重,以及从一处藏到另一处。如何是被守护但未被占有?譬如盗贼摧毁村庄、摧毁城市、摧毁国家后,聚集到寺庙,在那里,强盗从那些失去家园的人们那里抢夺赃物,堆积起来守护着,但不占有,这便是被守护但未被占有。如何是被占有但未被守护?譬如人们的财物

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Thus, it is hidden from one place to another. If a monk takes heavy belongings of others without being given through those four reasons, he commits a defeat. Furthermore, if a monk takes heavy belongings of others without being given through four reasons, he commits a defeat. What are the four? They are guarding, possessing, being heavy, and hiding from one place to another. How is it guarded? For example, people's heavy belongings are put into such containers, such as large copper vessels, copper vessels, pottery, boxes, and leather, and there are such guards arranged there, such as elephant troops, horse troops, chariot troops, and small army outposts stationed there, and they guard them there, this is guarding. How is it possessed? For example, people's heavy belongings are put into such containers, such as large copper vessels, copper vessels, pottery, boxes, and leather, and they say, "These are ours," thus possessing them, this is possessing. How is it heavy? Five mashakas, or more than five mashakas, this is heavy. How is it hidden from one place to another? Moving it from the place where it was placed and putting it in another place, this is hiding it from one place to another. If a monk takes heavy belongings of others without being given through those four reasons, he commits a defeat. Furthermore, if a monk takes heavy belongings of others without being given through four reasons, he commits a defeat. What are the four? They are being guarded but not possessed, being possessed but not guarded, being heavy, and hiding from one place to another. How is it being guarded but not possessed? For example, thieves destroy villages, destroy cities, and destroy countries, and gather at monasteries, where robbers plunder stolen goods from those who have lost their homes, pile them up and guard them, but do not possess them, this is being guarded but not possessed. How is it being possessed but not guarded? For example, people's belongings

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重的物品是这样的容器,比如装在大的铜器里,或者铜器里,或者陶器里,或者箱子里,或者皮革里。 那些东西会说:‘这些是我们的’,并占为己有。像这样的守护,比如没有安排象兵队、骑兵队、车兵队和小部队来守护,就这样占为己有却不守护。怎样算是重呢?五摩沙迦,或者超过五摩沙迦,这样才算是重。怎样算是从一个地方藏到另一个地方呢?就是从放置的地方移开,放到其他地方,这样就是从一个地方藏到另一个地方。比丘如果拿走他人重的物品,没有通过四种方式给予,就会犯波罗夷罪。比丘如果拿走他人重的物品,没有通过五种方式给予,就会犯波罗夷罪。五种是什么呢?不是以自己的认知拿取,不是以被诱惑的认知拿取,不是以暂时的认知拿取,拿取时没有告知他人,并且对他来说偷盗的心念持续存在,比丘如果拿走他人重的物品,没有通过这五种方式给予,就会犯波罗夷罪。通过五种方式就不会犯堕罪,五种是什么呢?以自己的认知拿取,以被诱惑的认知拿取,以暂时的认知拿取,拿取时告知他人,并且对他来说偷盗的心念没有持续存在,通过这五种方式就不会犯堕罪。 《律分别》,第四卷,偈颂: 在地上住和在容器里住, 在战场上住和在洞里住, 根本的药是第五种, 是正确归纳的类别。 像这样,其他人的重物,比如颈环、装饰戒指、臂环、项链、瑟摩多,以及珍珠串,放在地上,比丘因此而从床上起身,穿上下裙,行走,在没有占有和触摸之前,都会构成恶作剧罪。占有之后

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Heavy items are containers such as those placed in large copper vessels, or copper vessels, or pottery, or boxes, or leather. Those things will say, 'These are ours,' and claim them as their own. Such protection, such as not arranging elephant troops, cavalry troops, chariot troops, and small troops to guard them, thus claiming them as their own but not guarding them. How is it considered heavy? Five masha or more than five masha, that is considered heavy. How is it considered hiding from one place to another? It is moving from the place where it was placed and placing it in another place, that is hiding from one place to another. If a bhikshu takes heavy items from others without giving them through four means, he will commit a Pārājika offense. If a bhikshu takes heavy items from others without giving them through five means, he will commit a Pārājika offense. What are the five? Not taking with one's own awareness, not taking with a seduced awareness, not taking with a temporary awareness, not informing others when taking, and the thought of stealing remains close to him, if a bhikshu takes heavy items from others without giving them through these five means, he will commit a Pārājika offense. There is no offense through five means, what are the five? Taking with one's own awareness, taking with a seduced awareness, taking with a temporary awareness, informing others when taking, and the thought of stealing does not remain close to him, there is no offense through these five means. Vinayavibhaṅga, Volume Four, Verse: Dwelling on the ground and dwelling in a container, Dwelling on the battlefield and dwelling in a cave, The root medicine is the fifth, It is a category that is correctly summarized. Like this, heavy items of others, such as necklaces, decorated rings, armlets, necklaces, semuto, and strings of pearls, are placed on the ground, and the bhikshu gets up from the bed because of this, puts on the lower garment, walks, and as long as he does not possess and touch, he will commit a misdeed. After possessing

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如果探查,并且只要不从一个地方藏到另一个地方,那么罪过就变得严重。如果从一个地方藏到另一个地方,那就可以说是偷窃,要计算价值,东西齐全就犯了堕罪,东西不齐全就犯了粗罪。如果那块地方平坦且边缘相同,那就称为同一方向。如果出现争端、裂缝、写字或绘制各种颜色,那就称为不同方向。就像这样,其他人的重物是这样的:项链等、装饰戒指等、臂钏等、项链等、瑟莫朵等、珍珠串等放在容器里,比丘使用它们而从座位上站起,穿裙子行走,只要不占为己有,不探查,那就犯了轻罪。如果占为己有,探查,并且只要不从一个地方藏到另一个地方,那么罪过就变得严重。如果从一个地方藏到另一个地方,那就可以说是偷窃,要计算价值,东西齐全就犯了堕罪,东西不齐全就犯了粗罪。如果那个容器平坦且是一块,那就称为同一方向。如果出现裂缝、破损、有界限、写字或绘制各种颜色,那就称为不同方向。就像这样,其他人的重物是这样的:项链等、装饰戒指等、臂钏等、项链等、瑟莫朵等、珍珠串等放在战场上,比丘使用它们而从座位上站起,穿裙子,行走,只要不占为己有,不探查,那就犯了轻罪。如果占为己有,探查,并且只要不从一个地方藏到另一个地方,那么罪过就变得严重。如果从一个地方藏到另一个地方,那就可以说是偷窃,要计算价值,东西齐全就犯了堕罪,东西不齐全就犯了粗罪。如果那个战场是谷物

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If one investigates, and as long as one does not hide it from one place to another, the offense becomes serious. If one hides it from one place to another, it can be said to be stealing, the value must be calculated, and if the items are complete, one commits a defeat, and if the items are incomplete, one commits a gross offense. If that place is smooth and has the same edge, it is called the same direction. If there is a dispute, a crack, writing, or various colors painted, it is called a different direction. Like this, other people's heavy objects are like this: necklaces, decorative rings, armlets, necklaces, semodos, pearl necklaces, etc., are in a container, and the monk uses them to rise from the seat, wears a skirt and walks, and as long as he does not take possession of them, does not investigate, he commits a minor offense. If one takes possession of them, investigates, and as long as one does not hide it from one place to another, the offense becomes serious. If one hides it from one place to another, it can be said to be stealing, the value must be calculated, and if the items are complete, one commits a defeat, and if the items are incomplete, one commits a gross offense. If that container is smooth and is one piece, it is called the same direction. If there is a crack, a break, a boundary, writing, or various colors painted, it is called a different direction. Like this, other people's heavy objects are like this: necklaces, decorative rings, armlets, necklaces, semodos, pearl necklaces, etc., are on the battlefield, and the monk uses them to rise from the seat, wears a skirt, and walks, and as long as he does not take possession of them, does not investigate, he commits a minor offense. If one takes possession of them, investigates, and as long as one does not hide it from one place to another, the offense becomes serious. If one hides it from one place to another, it can be said to be stealing, the value must be calculated, and if the items are complete, one commits a defeat, and if the items are incomplete, one commits a gross offense. If that battlefield is grain

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如果容器被单一颜色的谷物装满,则应被称为“单方”。如果容器被多种颜色的谷物装满,则应被称为“多方”。例如,其他人的贵重物品,如项链、装饰戒指、臂钏、项圈、瑟摩多(一种装饰品)、珍珠串等,如果比丘因此而从座位上站起,穿上下裙,行走,只要不占有或触摸,就构成轻罪。如果占有或触摸,只要不从一个地方藏到另一个地方,就构成重罪。如果从一个地方藏到另一个地方,则应被称为盗窃。需要估价,如果物品完整,则构成堕罪;如果物品不完整,则构成重罪。如果容器被单一颜色的谷物装满,则应被称为“单方”。如果容器被多种颜色的谷物装满,则应被称为“多方”。如果容器已满,且边缘和开口处齐平,则应被称为“单方”。如果未满,且其中有木片、粗毛或芦苇等隔断,则应被称为“多方”。 例如,人们赖以生存的草药,如姜黄、莪术、菖蒲、姜或白菖蒲等,如果比丘在这些东西附近,因此而从座位上站起,穿上下裙,行走,只要不占有或触摸,就构成轻罪。如果占有或触摸,取出、携带或拖动,只要不从一个地方藏到另一个地方,就构成重罪。如果从一个地方藏到另一个地方,则应被称为盗窃。需要估价,如果物品完整,则构成堕罪;如果物品不完整,则构成重罪。总结:天空分为三类,鸟类分为另外三类,密咒引导,因此正确地总结了类别。例如,人们的屋顶上

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If a container is filled with grains of a single color, it should be called "one side." If a container is filled with grains of various colors, it should be called "multiple sides." For example, other people's heavy belongings, such as necklaces, decorated rings, armlets, collars, semodo (a type of ornament), strings of pearls, etc., if a monk rises from his seat because of them, puts on his lower garment, and walks, as long as he does not possess or touch them, it constitutes a minor offense. If he possesses or touches them, as long as he does not hide them from one place to another, it constitutes a major offense. If he hides them from one place to another, it should be called theft. It needs to be valued, and if the item is complete, it constitutes a defeat; if the item is incomplete, it constitutes a major offense. If a container is filled with grains of a single color, it should be called "one side." If a container is filled with grains of various colors, it should be called "multiple sides." If a container is full and the edges and opening are flush, it should be called "one side." If it is not full, and there are pieces of wood, coarse hair, or reeds separating it, it should be called "multiple sides." For example, the herbs that people rely on for survival, such as turmeric, zedoary, calamus, ginger, or white calamus, etc., if a monk is near these things, and therefore rises from his seat, puts on his lower garment, and walks, as long as he does not possess or touch them, it constitutes a minor offense. If he possesses or touches them, takes them out, carries them, or drags them, as long as he does not hide them from one place to another, it constitutes a major offense. If he hides them from one place to another, it should be called theft. It needs to be valued, and if the item is complete, it constitutes a defeat; if the item is incomplete, it constitutes a major offense. Summary: The sky is divided into three categories, birds are divided into another three categories, and secret mantras guide, thus the categories are correctly summarized. For example, on people's rooftops