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English version Question: When someone has abandoned greed (lobha), but arises with defilements (kilesa) and then regresses from the abandoned state, and at the time of no death (maraṇa) and rebirth (punabbhava), is it also the case that abandoning unwholesome mind (akusala citta) without accomplishment, and then accomplishing it, is also bound by obscured and indeterminate mind (sa-āvaraṇa-abyākata citta)? Answer: Yes, when someone has abandoned greed, but arises with defilements of the desire realm (kāmadhātu) and then regresses from the abandoned state, and at the time of no death and rebirth in the desire realm, it is the case that abandoning unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishing it, is also bound by obscured and indeterminate mind. Question: When someone abandons unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, and is not bound by obscured and indeterminate mind, what is the case? Answer: Except for the aforementioned situations. Question: If someone abandons unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, then they are definitely not bound by unobscured and indeterminate mind (an-āvaraṇa-abyākata citta) and wholesome mind (kusala citta), right? Answer: Yes. Question: If someone is bound by unobscured and indeterminate mind and wholesome mind, and abandons a certain state without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, then they are definitely not in the state of abandoning unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishing it, right? Answer: Yes. Question: If someone abandons unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, is it also the same for not being bound by obscured and indeterminate mind? Answer: Not necessarily. Or they abandon unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplish it, but are not without being bound by obscured and indeterminate mind. To explain in detail, there are four possibilities. Question: In what situation does someone abandon unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, but is not without being bound by obscured and indeterminate mind? Answer: If a learner (sekha puggala, a noble disciple who has not yet attained arahantship) who has abandoned greed for the desire realm regresses from the state of abandoning desire, and at the time of death in the form realm (rūpadhātu) and formless realm (arūpadhātu) without rebirth in the desire realm, this is the case. Question: In what situation does someone abandon obscured and indeterminate mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, but does not abandon unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it? Answer: If an Arhat (arahant, a fully enlightened being) arises with defilements of the form and formless realms and then regresses from the abandoned state, this is the case. Question: In what situation does someone abandon unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, and also abandons obscured and indeterminate mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it? Answer: If an Arhat arises with defilements of the desire realm and then regresses from the abandoned state, this is the case. Question: In what situation does someone not abandon unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, and also does not abandon obscured and indeterminate mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it? Answer: Except for the aforementioned situations. Question: If someone abandons unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, then they are definitely not bound by unobscured and indeterminate mind and the mind of a non-learner (asekha citta), right? Answer: Yes. Question: If someone is bound by unobscured and indeterminate mind and the mind of a non-learner, and abandons a certain state without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, then they are definitely not in the state of abandoning unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishing it, right? Answer: Yes. Question: If someone abandons unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, is it also the same for the mind of a learner (sekha citta)? Answer: Not necessarily. Or they abandon unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplish it, but it is not the mind of a learner. To explain in detail, there are four possibilities. Question: In what situation does someone abandon unwholesome mind without accomplishment, and then accomplishes it, but it is not the mind of a learner? Answer: If a learner who has abandoned greed for the desire realm regresses from the state of abandoning desire, and at the time of death in the form realm... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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无色界没欲界生时。学心舍不成就得成就非不善心者，谓阿罗汉起色无色界缠复还退时，及修加行入见道时。不善心舍不成就得成就亦学心者，谓阿罗汉起欲界缠复还退时。非不善心舍不成就得成就亦非学心者，除上尔所相。若欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就，欲界系无覆无记心亦尔耶？或欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就非欲界系无覆无记心，广说四句。欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就非欲界系无覆无记心者，谓已离欲界贪异生，从离欲贪复还退时，及色界没欲界生时。欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就非欲界系有覆无记心者，谓无色界没色界生时。欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就亦欲界系无覆无记心者，谓无色界没欲界生时。非欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就亦非欲界系无覆无记心者，除上尔所相。若欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就，定非色界系善心。若色界系善心舍不成就得成就，定非欲界系有覆无记心。若欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就，色界系有覆无记心亦尔耶？或欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就非色界系有覆无记心，广说四句。欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就非色界系有覆无记心者，谓已离欲界贪异生，未离色界贪，从离欲贪复还退时，及色界没欲界生时。色界系有覆无记心舍不成就得 现代汉语译本：当无色界众生死后，在欲界受生时，舍弃了有学之心，未成就而得成就，并非是不善心的情况是：当阿罗汉生起色界无色界烦恼，之后又退转时，以及修习加行进入见道时。舍弃了不善心，未成就而得成就，也是有学之心的情况是：当阿罗汉生起欲界烦恼，之后又退转时。舍弃了非不善心，未成就而得成就，也并非是有学之心的情况是：除了以上所说的那些情况。如果欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，那么欲界系的无覆无记心也是这样吗？或者欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，但并非是欲界系的无覆无记心，广说四句（肯定前句，否定后句；否定前句，肯定后句；肯定前后句；否定前后句）。欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，但并非是欲界系的无覆无记心的情况是：已经脱离欲界贪欲的异生，从脱离欲贪的状态又退转时，以及无色界众生死后，在欲界受生时。欲界系的无覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，但并非是欲界系的有覆无记心的情况是：当无色界众生死后，在色界受生时。欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，也是欲界系的无覆无记心的情况是：当无色界众生死后，在欲界受生时。舍弃了非欲界系的有覆无记心，未成就而得成就，也并非是欲界系的无覆无记心的情况是：除了以上所说的那些情况。如果欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，那么一定不是色界系的善心。如果色界系的善心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，那么一定不是欲界系的有覆无记心。如果欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，那么色界系的有覆无记心也是这样吗？或者欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，但并非是色界系的有覆无记心，广说四句。欲界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得成就，但并非是色界系的有覆无记心的情况是：已经脱离欲界贪欲的异生，但未脱离色界贪欲，从脱离欲贪的状态又退转时，以及无色界众生死后，在欲界受生时。色界系的有覆无记心舍弃了，未成就而得
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English version: When beings from the Formless Realm die and are born in the Desire Realm, having abandoned the learning mind, not achieving it but then achieving it, and it is not an unwholesome mind, the situation is: when an Arhat arises with Form Realm and Formless Realm defilements and then regresses, and when practicing the application and entering the Path of Seeing. Having abandoned the unwholesome mind, not achieving it but then achieving it, and it is also a learning mind, the situation is: when an Arhat arises with Desire Realm defilements and then regresses. Having abandoned the non-unwholesome mind, not achieving it but then achieving it, and it is also not a learning mind, the situation is: except for the aforementioned situations. If the Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, is the Desire Realm-related unobscured and indeterminate mind also like that? Or the Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, but it is not the Desire Realm-related unobscured and indeterminate mind, explain the four possibilities in detail (affirming the former, negating the latter; negating the former, affirming the latter; affirming both; negating both). The Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, but it is not the Desire Realm-related unobscured and indeterminate mind, the situation is: a common being who has already detached from Desire Realm craving, when regressing from detachment from Desire Realm craving, and when beings from the Formless Realm die and are born in the Desire Realm. The Desire Realm-related unobscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, but it is not the Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind, the situation is: when beings from the Formless Realm die and are born in the Form Realm. The Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, and it is also the Desire Realm-related unobscured and indeterminate mind, the situation is: when beings from the Formless Realm die and are born in the Desire Realm. The non-Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, and it is also not the Desire Realm-related unobscured and indeterminate mind, the situation is: except for the aforementioned situations. If the Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, then it is definitely not a Form Realm-related wholesome mind. If the Form Realm-related wholesome mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, then it is definitely not a Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind. If the Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, is the Form Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind also like that? Or the Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, but it is not the Form Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind, explain the four possibilities in detail. The Desire Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved but then achieved, but it is not the Form Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind, the situation is: a common being who has already detached from Desire Realm craving, but has not detached from Form Realm craving, when regressing from detachment from Desire Realm craving, and when beings from the Formless Realm die and are born in the Desire Realm. The Form Realm-related obscured and indeterminate mind is abandoned, not achieved and --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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成就非欲界系有覆无记心者，谓已离色界贪，起色界缠复还退时，及无色界没色界生时。欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就亦色界系有覆无记心者，谓已离色界贪异生，起欲界缠复还退时，及无色界没欲界生时。非欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就亦非色界系有覆无记心者，除上尔所相。若欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就，定非色界系无覆无记心。若色界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就，定非欲界系有覆无记心。从此以后都无所有。若欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就，色界系善心亦尔耶？或欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就非色界系善心，广说四句。欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就非色界系善心者，谓无色界没欲界生时。色界系善心舍不成就得成就非欲界系无覆无记心者，谓修加行，色界善心初现前时。欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就亦欲界系善心者，谓无色界没色界生时。非欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就亦非色界系善心者，除上尔所相。若欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就，色界系有覆无记心定尔。或色界系有覆无记心舍不成就得成就非欲界系无覆无记心，谓已离色界贪，从离色贪复还退时。若欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就，色界系无覆无记心亦尔耶？或欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就得成就非色界系无 现代汉语译本 成就非欲界系有覆无记心（指非属于欲界的，有遮盖性的，既非善也非恶的心）的人，是指已经脱离欲贪（Kāma-rāga，对欲界事物的贪恋），生起色界缠（rūpa-rāga，对色界事物的执着）后又退转的时候，以及没有色界死亡（rūpa-cyuti）和色界生（rūpa-utpatti）的时候。 对于欲界系有覆无记心舍（已经舍弃）不成就（尚未获得）而得成就（最终获得）的情况，以及色界系有覆无记心（指属于色界的，有遮盖性的，既非善也非恶的心）的人，是指已经脱离欲贪的异生（bāla-prthag-jana，指凡夫），生起欲界缠（kāma-rāga，对欲界事物的贪恋）后又退转的时候，以及没有色界死亡（rūpa-cyuti）和欲界生（kāma-utpatti）的时候。 对于非欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就而得成就的情况，以及非色界系有覆无记心的人，排除以上所说的那些情况。 如果欲界系有覆无记心舍不成就而得成就，那么一定不是色界系无覆无记心（指属于色界的，没有遮盖性的，既非善也非恶的心）。如果色界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就，那么一定不是欲界系有覆无记心。从这以后，就什么都没有了。 如果欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就，那么色界系善心（rūpa-kuśala-citta，指属于色界的善心）也是这样吗？或者欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就，但不是色界系善心，详细来说有四种情况。 欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就但不是色界系善心的情况，是指没有色界死亡（rūpa-cyuti）和欲界生（kāma-utpatti）的时候。色界系善心舍不成就而得成就但不是欲界系无覆无记心的情况，是指修习加行（prayoga，指为达到目标而进行的努力），色界善心初次现前的时候。 欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就也是欲界系善心的情况，是指没有色界死亡（rūpa-cyuti）和色界生（rūpa-utpatti）的时候。非欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就也不是色界系善心的情况，排除以上所说的那些情况。 如果欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就，那么色界系有覆无记心一定是这样。或者色界系有覆无记心舍不成就而得成就但不是欲界系无覆无记心，是指已经脱离欲贪，从脱离色贪后又退转的时候。 如果欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就，那么色界系无覆无记心也是这样吗？或者欲界系无覆无记心舍不成就而得成就但不是色界系无覆无记心。