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English version Does the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form also not accomplish the unobscured indeterminate mind not associated with the Realm of Form? Or does it not accomplish the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form but is not the unobscured indeterminate mind not associated with the Realm of Form? Explain the four possibilities in detail. The case of not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form but not being the unobscured indeterminate mind not associated with the Realm of Form refers to when the mind of birth, abiding, and maturation result of the Realm of Form is presently occurring. The case of not accomplishing the unobscured indeterminate mind not associated with the Realm of Form but not being the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form refers to a Pudgala (person) in the Realm of Desire who is born and abides in the Realm of Form and has not yet detached from desire for the Realm of Form. The case of not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form and also not accomplishing the unobscured indeterminate mind not associated with the Realm of Form refers to a person in the Realm of Desire who is born and abides in the Realm of Form and has already detached from desire for the Realm of Form, and when the mind of birth, abiding, and maturation result of the Realm of Form is not presently occurring. The case of neither not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form nor not accomplishing the unobscured indeterminate mind not associated with the Realm of Form does not exist. If one does not accomplish the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form, does one also not accomplish the mind of a learner (Sekha)? Or does one not accomplish the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form but is not the mind of a learner? Explain the four possibilities in detail. The case of not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form but not being the mind of a learner refers to those learners (Sekhas) who have already detached from desire for the Realm of Form. The case of not accomplishing the mind of a learner but not being the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form refers to those ordinary beings (Prthagjanas) who have not yet detached from desire for the Realm of Form. The case of not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form and also accomplishing the mind of a learner refers to an Arhat (one who has attained enlightenment), and those ordinary beings who have already detached from desire for the Realm of Form. The case of neither not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form nor not being the mind of a learner refers to those learners who have not yet detached from desire for the Realm of Form. If one does not accomplish the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form, does one also not accomplish the mind of a non-learner? Or does one not accomplish the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form but is not the mind of a non-learner? Explain the four possibilities in detail. The case of not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form but not being the mind of a non-learner refers to an Arhat. The case of not accomplishing the mind of a non-learner but not being the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form refers to those learners and ordinary beings who have not yet detached from desire for the Realm of Form. The case of not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form and also accomplishing the mind of a non-learner refers to learners and ordinary beings who have already detached from desire for the Realm of Form. The case of neither not accomplishing the obscured indeterminate mind associated with the Realm of Form nor not being --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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无学心者，无有此句。若不成就色界系无覆无记心，亦不成就无色界系善心耶？或不成就色界系无覆无记心非无色界系善心，广说四句。不成就色界系无覆无记心非无色界系善心者，谓无色界生长补特伽罗。不成就无色界系善心非色界系无覆无记心者，谓欲界生长已离欲界贪未得无色界善心，及色界生长未得无色善心补特伽罗。不成就色界系无覆无记心亦无色界系善心者，谓欲界生长未离欲界贪补特伽罗。非不成就色界系无覆无记心亦非无色界系善心者，谓欲界色界生长已得无色界善心补特伽罗。若成就色界系无覆无记心，亦成就无色界系有覆无记心耶？或不成就色界系无覆无记心非无色界系有覆无记心，广说四句。不成就色界系无覆无记心非无色界系有覆无记心者，谓欲界生长未离欲界贪，及无色界生长有学异生。不成就无色界系有覆无记心非色界系无覆无记心者，谓欲界色界生长诸阿罗汉。不成就色界系无覆无记心亦无色界系有覆无记心者，谓无色界生长诸阿罗汉。非不成就色界系无覆无记心亦非无色界系有覆无记心者，谓欲界生长有学异生已离欲界贪，及色界生长有学异生。若不成就色界系无覆无记心，亦不成就无色界系无覆无记心耶？或不成就色界系无覆无记心非无色界系无覆无记心，广说四句。不成就色界 现代汉语译本： 对于已证得无学果位的人来说，不存在‘无学心’这种说法。如果一个人没有成就‘系无覆无记心’（与烦恼相关的无记心），那么他是否也没有成就‘无系善心’（与烦恼无关的善心）呢？或者说，是否有些人没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，但并非没有成就‘无系善心’呢？对此可以广说四种情况。 没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，但并非没有成就‘无系善心’的人，指的是无色界和色界新生的补特伽罗（pudgalas，人）。 没有成就‘无系善心’，但并非没有成就‘系无覆无记心’的人，指的是欲界新生的、已经断除了欲界贪欲但尚未获得无色界和色界善心，以及色界和无色界新生的、尚未获得无色界善心的补特伽罗。 既没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，也没有成就‘无系善心’的人，指的是欲界新生的、尚未断除欲界贪欲的补特伽罗。 并非没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，也并非没有成就‘无系善心’的人，指的是欲界新生的、已经获得无色界和色界善心的补特伽罗。 如果一个人成就了‘系无覆无记心’，那么他是否也成就了‘无系有覆无记心’（与烦恼无关的有覆无记心）呢？或者说，是否有些人成就了‘系无覆无记心’，但并非成就了‘无系有覆无记心’呢？对此可以广说四种情况。 没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，但并非没有成就‘无系有覆无记心’的人，指的是欲界新生的、尚未断除欲界贪欲的人，以及无色界和色界新生的有学位的异生（尚未证得圣果的凡夫）。 没有成就‘无系有覆无记心’，但并非没有成就‘系无覆无记心’的人，指的是欲界新生的诸阿罗汉（arhats，已断尽烦恼的圣者）。 既没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，也没有成就‘无系有覆无记心’的人，指的是无色界和色界新生的诸阿罗汉。 并非没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，也并非没有成就‘无系有覆无记心’的人，指的是欲界新生的、有学位的异生且已断除欲界贪欲的人，以及色界和无色界新生的有学位的异生。 如果一个人没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，那么他是否也没有成就‘无系无覆无记心’（与烦恼无关的无覆无记心）呢？或者说，是否有些人没有成就‘系无覆无记心’，但并非没有成就‘无系无覆无记心’呢？对此可以广说四种情况。 没有成就‘系无覆无记心’
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English version: For those who have attained the state of no-more-learning (无学, Wúxué), the term 'no-more-learning mind' does not apply. If one has not achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' (系无覆无记心, xì wú fù wú jì xīn), does it follow that one has also not achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-wholesome mind' (无系善心, wú xì shàn xīn)? Or, are there those who have not achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' but have achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-wholesome mind'? We can elaborate on this with four possibilities. Those who have not achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' but have achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-wholesome mind' refer to beings newly born in the Form Realm (色界, Sèjiè) and Formless Realm (无色界, Wúsèjiè) (补特伽罗, pǔ tè qié luó, pudgalas, persons). Those who have not achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-wholesome mind' but have achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' refer to beings newly born in the Desire Realm (欲界, Yùjiè) who have abandoned desire for the Desire Realm but have not yet attained the wholesome minds of the Form and Formless Realms, and beings newly born in the Form and Formless Realms who have not yet attained the wholesome minds of the Formless Realm. Those who have achieved neither the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' nor the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-wholesome mind' refer to beings newly born in the Desire Realm who have not abandoned desire for the Desire Realm. Those who have not failed to achieve either the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' or the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-wholesome mind' refer to beings newly born in the Desire Realm who have attained the wholesome minds of the Form and Formless Realms. If one has achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind', does it follow that one has also achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-obscured-neutral mind' (无系有覆无记心, wú xì yǒu fù wú jì xīn)? Or, are there those who have achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' but have not achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-obscured-neutral mind'? We can elaborate on this with four possibilities. Those who have not achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' but have achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-obscured-neutral mind' refer to beings newly born in the Desire Realm who have not abandoned desire for the Desire Realm, and learners (有学, Yǒuxué) who are ordinary beings (异生, yì shēng) in the Form and Formless Realms. Those who have not achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-obscured-neutral mind' but have achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' refer to all Arhats (阿罗汉, Āluóhàn, liberated beings) newly born in the Desire Realm. Those who have achieved neither the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' nor the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-obscured-neutral mind' refer to all Arhats newly born in the Form and Formless Realms. Those who have not failed to achieve either the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' or the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-obscured-neutral mind' refer to learners who are ordinary beings newly born in the Desire Realm and have abandoned desire for the Desire Realm, and learners who are ordinary beings in the Form and Formless Realms. If one has not achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind', does it follow that one has also not achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' (无系无覆无记心, wú xì wú fù wú jì xīn)? Or, are there those who have not achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' but have achieved the 'unaffiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind'? We can elaborate on this with four possibilities. Those who have not achieved the 'affiliated-with-defilements-neutral-and-non-retributive mind' --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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系无覆无记心非无色界系无覆无记心者，谓无色界生长异熟果心正现在前。不成就无色界系无覆无记心非色界系无覆无记心者，谓欲界生长已离欲界贪，及色界生长补特伽罗。不成就色界系无覆无记心亦无色界系无覆无记心者，谓欲界生长未离欲界贪，及无色界生长异熟果心不现在前。非不成就色界系无覆无记心亦非无色界系无覆无记心者，无有此句。若不成就色界系无覆无记心，亦不成就学心耶？或不成就色界系无覆无记心非学心，广说四句。不成就色界系无覆无记心非学心者，谓欲界生长有学未离欲界贪，及无色界生长有学补特伽罗。不成就学心非色界系无覆无记心者，谓欲界生长诸阿罗汉，及诸异生已离欲界贪，及色界生长诸阿罗汉及诸异生。不成就色界系无覆无记心亦学心者，谓欲界生长异生未离欲界贪，及无色界生长阿罗汉异生。非不成就色界系无覆无记心亦非学心者，谓欲界生长有学已离欲界贪，及色界生长有学补特伽罗。若不成就色界系无覆无记心，亦不成就无学心耶？或不成就色界系无覆无记心非无学心，广说四句。不成就色界系无覆无记心非无学心者，谓无色界生长阿罗汉。不成就无学心非色界系无覆无记心者，谓欲界生长有学异生已离欲界贪，及色界生长有学异生。不成就色界系无覆无记心亦无 现代汉语译本 ‘系无覆无记心’（与烦恼相关的无覆盖无记心）不是没有，‘系无覆无记心’是指无色界、色界的由业力成熟而产生的心识正在生起。不具有‘系无覆无记心’也不是没有‘系无覆无记心’，是指在欲界生长的众生已经断除了对欲界的贪欲，以及在无色界、色界生长的补特伽罗（人）。不具有‘系无覆无记心’也不是没有‘系无覆无记心’，是指在欲界生长的众生尚未断除对欲界的贪欲，以及无色界、色界由业力成熟而产生的心识没有正在生起。不存在不具有‘系无覆无记心’也不是没有‘系无覆无记心’的情况。 如果一个人不具有‘系无覆无记心’，那么他也不具有‘学心’（正在学习的心）吗？或者说，不具有‘系无覆无记心’但不是‘学心’，详细分析这四种情况。不具有‘系无覆无记心’但不是‘学心’，是指在欲界生长的有学之人尚未断除对欲界的贪欲，以及在无色界、色界生长的有学补特伽罗。不具有‘学心’但不是‘系无覆无记心’，是指在欲界生长的阿罗汉，以及已经断除了对欲界贪欲的异生，以及在无色界、色界生长的阿罗汉和异生。不具有‘系无覆无记心’但同时具有‘学心’，是指在欲界生长的尚未断除对欲界贪欲的异生，以及在无色界、色界生长的阿罗汉和异生。不具有‘系无覆无记心’也不是‘学心’，是指在欲界生长的有学之人已经断除了对欲界的贪欲，以及在无色界、色界生长的有学补特伽罗。 如果一个人不具有‘系无覆无记心’，那么他也不具有‘无学心’（已完成学习的心）吗？或者说，不具有‘系无覆无记心’但不是‘无学心’，详细分析这四种情况。不具有‘系无覆无记心’但不是‘无学心’，是指在无色界、色界生长的阿罗汉。不具有‘无学心’但不是‘系无覆无记心’，是指在欲界生长的有学异生已经断除了对欲界的贪欲，以及在无色界、色界生长的有学异生。