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English version: Regarding those in the Kāmadhātu (desire realm, the world of beings driven by desires) who have already attained wholesome minds of the Arūpadhātu (formless realm, the world of meditative states without physical form), and those Pudgalas (individuals) who have not attained wholesome minds of the Arūpadhātu, they do not attain wholesome minds of the Arūpadhātu, but they are not non-attainers of unwholesome minds. This refers to Pudgalas in the Kāmadhātu who have not yet detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu. Those who do not attain unwholesome minds and also do not attain wholesome minds of the Arūpadhātu refer to Pudgalas in the Kāmadhātu who have detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu but have not yet attained wholesome minds of the Arūpadhātu, and Pudgalas who have not attained wholesome minds of the Arūpadhātu. There is no such case where one is not a non-attainer of unwholesome minds and also not a non-attainer of wholesome minds of the Arūpadhātu. If one does not attain unwholesome minds, does one also not attain obscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu (minds that are neither good nor bad but are accompanied by defilements)? If one does not attain obscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu, then one definitely does not attain unwholesome minds. Or, one does not attain unwholesome minds but is not a non-attainer of obscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu; this refers to learners (those on the path to enlightenment) and ordinary beings who have detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu. If one does not attain unwholesome minds, does one also not attain unobscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu (minds that are neither good nor bad and are not accompanied by defilements)? Or, one does not attain unwholesome minds but is not a non-attainer of unobscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu; there are four cases explained in detail. Those who do not attain unwholesome minds but are not non-attainers of unobscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu refer to those in the Arūpadhātu whose resultant minds (minds arising from past karma) are presently arising. Those who do not attain unobscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu but are not non-attainers of unwholesome minds refer to Pudgalas in the Kāmadhātu who have not detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu. Those who do not attain unwholesome minds and also do not attain unobscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu refer to those in the Kāmadhātu who have detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu, and those in the Arūpadhātu, if the resultant minds of the Arūpadhātu are not presently arising. There is no such case where one is not a non-attainer of unwholesome minds and also not a non-attainer of unobscured indeterminate minds of the Arūpadhātu. If one does not attain unwholesome minds, does one also not attain learning minds (minds of those on the path)? Or, one does not attain unwholesome minds but is not a non-attainer of learning minds; there are four cases explained in detail. Those who do not attain unwholesome minds but are not non-attainers of learning minds refer to those learners who have detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu. Those who do not attain learning minds but are not non-attainers of unwholesome minds refer to ordinary beings in the Kāmadhātu who have not detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu. Those who do not attain unwholesome minds and also attain learning minds refer to Arhats (those who have eradicated all defilements), and those ordinary beings who have detached from desire for the Kāmadhātu. Those who are not non-attainers of unwholesome minds and also attain learning minds... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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非学心者，谓诸有学未离欲界贪。若不成就不善心，亦不成就无学心耶？或不成就不善心非无学心，广说四句。不成就不善心非无学心者，谓阿罗汉。不成就无学心非不善心者，谓有学异生未离欲界贪。不成就不善心亦无学心者，谓有学异生已离欲界贪。非不成就不善心亦非无学心者，无有此句。若不成就欲界系有覆无记心，亦不成就欲界系无覆无记心耶？若不成就欲界系无覆无记心，定不成就欲界系有覆无记心。或不成就欲界系有覆无记心非欲界系无覆无记心，谓欲界生长异生已离欲界贪，及未离欲界贪圣者现观边苦法智已生，若色界生长补特伽罗。若不成就欲界系有覆无记心，亦不成就色界系善心耶？或不成就欲界系有覆无记心非色界系善心，广说四句。不成就欲界系有覆无记心非色界系善心者，谓欲界生长异生已离欲界贪，及未离欲界贪圣者现观边苦法智已生，若色界生长补特伽罗。不成就色界系善心非欲界系有覆无记心者，谓欲界生长未得色界善心补特伽罗。不成就欲界系有覆无记心亦色界系善心者，谓无色界生长补特伽罗。非不成就欲界系有覆无记心亦非色界系善心者，谓欲界生长异生未离欲界贪已得色界善心，及未离欲界贪圣者现观边苦法智未生。若不成就欲界系有覆无记心，亦不成就色界系有覆无记心 现代汉语译本 对于非学心（asekha-citta，指无学者的心）的人，指的是那些有学（sekha，指还在学习的人）但尚未脱离欲界贪欲的人。如果不成就（不具备）不善心，是否也不成就无学心呢？或者说，不成就（不具备）不善心的人，并非一定不成就无学心？对此可以进行四句分析。 不成就（不具备）不善心，但并非不成就无学心的人，指的是阿罗汉（Arhat，已证得最高果位的人）。不成就（不具备）无学心，但并非不成就（不具备）不善心的人，指的是有学位的凡夫，尚未脱离欲界贪欲。不成就（不具备）不善心，同时也（不具备）无学心的人，指的是有学位的凡夫，已经脱离欲界贪欲。不存在不成就（不具备）不善心，也并非不成就（不具备）无学心的人的情况。 如果不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心（欲界中有烦恼遮盖的中性心），是否也不成就欲界系的无覆无记心（欲界中没有烦恼遮盖的中性心）呢？如果一个人不成就（不具备）欲界系的无覆无记心，那么他一定不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心。 或者说，不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心，但并非不成就（不具备）欲界系的无覆无记心的人，指的是欲界中出生的凡夫，已经脱离欲界贪欲，以及尚未脱离欲界贪欲的圣者，在现观（abhisamaya，亲身体验真理）的边缘，苦法智（苦谛之智）已经生起，如果是**生长补特伽罗（pudgala，人）。如果不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心，是否也不成就**系善心呢？ 或者说，不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心，但并非**系善心，对此可以进行四句分析。不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心，但并非**系善心的人，指的是欲界中出生的凡夫，已经脱离欲界贪欲，以及尚未脱离欲界贪欲的圣者，在现观的边缘，苦法智已经生起，如果是**生长补特伽罗。不成就**系善心，但并非不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心的人，指的是欲界中出生的尚未获得**善心的补特伽罗。不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心，同时也**系善心的人，指的是没有**生长的补特伽罗。并非不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心，也并非**系善心的人，指的是欲界中出生的凡夫，尚未脱离欲界贪欲，但已经获得**善心，以及尚未脱离欲界贪欲的圣者，在现观的边缘，苦法智尚未生起。如果不成就（不具备）欲界系的有覆无记心，是否也不成就**系有覆无记心呢？
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English version Those who are not 'asekha-citta' (non-learners' minds) refer to those 'sekha' (learners) who have not yet detached from desire-realm greed. If one does not achieve unwholesome mind, does one also not achieve non-learner's mind? Or, does one not achieve unwholesome mind but not necessarily non-learner's mind? A fourfold analysis can be elaborated on this. One who does not achieve unwholesome mind but is not without non-learner's mind refers to an Arhat (one who has attained the highest state). One who does not achieve non-learner's mind but is not without unwholesome mind refers to a learner ordinary being who has not yet detached from desire-realm greed. One who does not achieve unwholesome mind and also does not achieve non-learner's mind refers to a learner ordinary being who has already detached from desire-realm greed. There is no case where one does not achieve unwholesome mind and also is not without non-learner's mind. If one does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind, does one also not achieve desire-realm associated unobscured indeterminate mind? If one does not achieve desire-realm associated unobscured indeterminate mind, one definitely does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind. Or, one who does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind but is not without desire-realm associated unobscured indeterminate mind refers to an ordinary being born in the desire realm who has already detached from desire-realm greed, and a noble one who has not yet detached from desire-realm greed, at the edge of 'abhisamaya' (direct realization), for whom the knowledge of suffering-dharma (knowledge of the truth of suffering) has already arisen, if a **growing pudgala (person). If one does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind, does one also not achieve **-realm wholesome mind? Or, one who does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind but is not without **-realm wholesome mind, a fourfold analysis can be elaborated on this. One who does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind but is not without **-realm wholesome mind refers to an ordinary being born in the desire realm who has already detached from desire-realm greed, and a noble one who has not yet detached from desire-realm greed, at the edge of direct realization, for whom the knowledge of suffering-dharma has already arisen, if a **growing pudgala. One who does not achieve **-realm wholesome mind but is not without desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind refers to a pudgala born in the desire realm who has not yet attained **wholesome mind. One who does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind and also **-realm wholesome mind refers to a pudgala without **growth. One who is not without desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind and also not without **-realm wholesome mind refers to an ordinary being born in the desire realm who has not yet detached from desire-realm greed but has already attained **wholesome mind, and a noble one who has not yet detached from desire-realm greed, at the edge of direct realization, for whom the knowledge of suffering-dharma has not yet arisen. If one does not achieve desire-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind, does one also not achieve **-realm associated obscured indeterminate mind? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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耶？若不成就色界系有覆无记心，定不成就欲界系有覆无记心。或不成就欲界系有覆无记心非不成就色界系有覆无记心，谓欲界生长异生已离欲界贪未离色界贪，及未离色界贪圣者现观边苦法智已生，若色界生长未离彼贪补特伽罗。若不成就欲界系有覆无记心，亦不成就色界系无覆无记心耶？或不成就欲界系有覆无记心非色界系无覆无记心，广说四句。不成就欲界系有覆无记心非色界系无覆无记心者，谓欲界生长已离欲界贪，及色界生长补特伽罗。不成就色界系无覆无记心非欲界系有覆无记心者，谓欲界生长异生未离欲界贪，及未离欲界贪圣者现观边苦法智未生。不成就欲界系有覆无记心亦色界系无覆无记心者，谓无色界生长补特伽罗。非不成就欲界系有覆无记心亦非色界系无覆无记心者，无有此句。若不成就欲界系有覆无记心，亦不成就无色界系善心耶？或不成就欲界系有覆无记心非无色界系善心，广说四句。不成就欲界系无覆无记心非无色界系善心者，谓欲界色界生长已得无色界善心，及无色界生长补特伽罗。不成就无色界系善心非欲界系有覆无记心者，谓欲界生长异生未离欲界贪，及未离欲界贪圣者现观边苦法智未生。不成就欲界系有覆无记心亦无色界系善心者，谓欲界生长异生已离欲界贪未得无色界善心，及 现代汉语译本： 问：如果不能成就色界、无色界（**系）的有覆无记心，就一定不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心吗？或者说，不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，但并非不能成就色界、无色界（**系）的有覆无记心的情况也是存在的。这种情况是指欲界众生（欲界生长异生）已经脱离了欲界贪欲，但尚未脱离色界、无色界（**）的贪欲，以及尚未脱离色界、无色界（**）贪欲的圣者，他们现观边苦法智已经生起，或者说是色界、无色界（**）的众生（**生长）尚未脱离那些贪欲的补特伽罗（补特伽罗：指人或众生）。 问：如果不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，也就不能成就色界、无色界（**系）的无覆无记心吗？或者说，不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，但并非不能成就色界、无色界（**系）的无覆无记心的情况也是存在的。对此，可以广说四句。 不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，但并非不能成就色界、无色界（**系）的无覆无记心的情况是指，欲界众生（欲界生长）已经脱离了欲界贪欲，以及色界、无色界（**）的众生（**生长补特伽罗）。不能成就色界、无色界（**系）的无覆无记心，但并非不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心的情况是指，欲界众生（欲界生长异生）尚未脱离欲界贪欲，以及尚未脱离欲界贪欲的圣者，他们现观边苦法智尚未生起。不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，同时也成就色界、无色界（**系）的无覆无记心的情况是指，没有色界、无色界（无**）的众生（生长补特伽罗）。并非不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，也并非不能成就色界、无色界（**系）的无覆无记心的情况，是不存在的。 问：如果不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，也就不能成就无色界（无**系）的善心吗？或者说，不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，但并非不能成就无色界（无**系）的善心的情况也是存在的。对此，可以广说四句。 不能成就欲界系的无覆无记心，但并非不能成就无色界（无**系）的善心的情况是指，欲界众生（欲界**生长）已经获得了无色界（无**）的善心，以及无色界（无**）的众生（生长补特伽罗）。不能成就无色界（无**系）的善心，但并非不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心的情况是指，欲界众生（欲界生长异生）尚未脱离欲界贪欲，以及尚未脱离欲界贪欲的圣者，他们现观边苦法智尚未生起。不能成就欲界系的有覆无记心，同时也成就无色界（无**系）的善心的情况是指，欲界众生（欲界生长异生）已经脱离了欲界贪欲，但尚未获得无色界（无**）的善心，以及