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for them there, will the bodily formation not arise? For those who have attained the second jhāna, the third jhāna, for them there, the verbal formation will not arise, but for them there, the bodily formation will not arise. For those endowed with the final thought, after whose thought the final thought without initial application and sustained application will arise, for those who have attained the fourth jhāna, for non-percipient beings, for them there, the verbal formation will not arise, and the bodily formation will not arise. (Ka) For whom, where the bodily formation will not arise, for them there, will the mental formation not arise? After whose thought the final thought of the sense-sphere will arise, for those who have attained the fourth jhāna, for those of the form-sphere, for those of the formless-sphere, for them there, the bodily formation will not arise, but for them there, the mental formation will not arise. For those endowed with the final thought, for non-percipient beings, for them there, the bodily formation will not arise, and the mental formation will not arise. (Kha) Or again, for whom, where…etc.? Yes. 48. (Ka) For whom, where the verbal formation will not arise, for them there, will the mental formation not arise? After whose thought the final thought without initial application and sustained application will arise, for those who have attained the second jhāna, the third jhāna, the fourth jhāna, for them there, the verbal formation will not arise, but for them there, the mental formation will not arise. For those endowed with the final thought, for non-percipient beings, for them there, the verbal formation will not arise, and the mental formation will not arise. (Kha) Or again, for whom, where…etc.? Yes. (4) Section on the Present and the Past (Ka) Direct Person 49. (Ka) For whom the bodily formation arises, for them the verbal formation arises… did arise? Yes. (B) Or for whom the verbal formation arose, for him does the bodily formation arise? For all, at the moment of the mind's dissolution, without in-breaths and out-breaths, at the moment of the mind's arising, for those who have attained cessation, for non-percipient beings, for them the verbal formation arose, but for them the bodily formation does not arise. At the moment of the in-breaths and out-breaths' arising, for them the verbal formation also arose, and the bodily formation also arises. (A) For whom the bodily formation arises, for him did the mental formation arise? Yes. (B) Or for whom the mental formation arose, for him does the bodily formation arise? For all, at the moment of the mind's dissolution, without in-breaths and out-breaths, at the moment of the mind's arising, for those who have attained cessation, for non-percipient beings, for them the mental formation arose, but for them the bodily formation does not arise. At the moment of the in-breaths and out-breaths' arising, for them the mental formation also arose, and the bodily formation also arises. 50. (A) For whom the verbal formation arises, for him did the mental formation arise? Yes. (B) Or for whom the mental formation arose, for him does the verbal formation arise? For all, at the moment of the mind's dissolution, without thought and examination, at the moment of the mind's arising, for those who have attained cessation, for non-percipient beings, for them the mental formation arose, but for them the verbal formation does not arise. At the moment of thought and examination's arising, for them the mental formation also arose, and the verbal formation also arises. (B) Straightforward (question) regarding location. 51. Where the bodily formation arises... (etc.) (C) Straightforward (question) regarding person and location. 52. (A) For whom, where the bodily formation arises, for him, there did the verbal formation arise? For those who have attained the second jhāna, the third jhāna, at the moment of the in-breaths and out-breaths' arising, for them, there the bodily formation arises, but for them, there the verbal formation did not arise. For those who have attained the first jhāna, for those in the sense-sphere, (in-breaths and out-breaths...) At the moment of the arising of in-breaths and out-breaths, for them, there, body-formation also arises, and speech-formation also arose. (Kha) Or for whom, or where, speech-formation arose, for him, there, does body-formation arise? For those who have attained the first jhāna, of the sense-sphere, at the moment of the dissolution of in-breaths and out-breaths, and for those very ones, at the moment of the arising of consciousness without in-breaths and out-breaths, for those of the form-sphere, for those of the formless-sphere, for them, there, speech-formation arose, but for them, there, body-formation does not arise. For those who have attained the first jhāna, of the sense-sphere, at the moment of the arising of in-breaths and out-breaths, for them, there, speech-formation also arose, and body-formation also arises. (Ka) For whom, where, body-formation arises, for him, there, did mind-formation arise? Yes. (Kha) Or for whom, or where, mind-formation arose, for him, there, does body-formation arise? At the moment of the dissolution of consciousness for all, and at the moment of the arising of consciousness without in-breaths and out-breaths, for them, there, mind-formation arose, but for them, there, body-formation does not arise. At the moment of the arising of in-breaths and out-breaths, for them, there, mind-formation also arose, and body-formation also arises. 53. (Ka) For whom, where, speech-formation arises, for him, there, did mind-formation arise? Yes. (Kha) Or for whom, or where, mind-formation arose, for him, there, does speech-formation arise? At the moment of the dissolution of consciousness for all, and at the moment of the arising of consciousness without initial application and sustained application, for them, there, mind-formation arose, but for them, there, speech-formation does not arise. At the moment of the arising of initial application and sustained application, for them, there, mind-formation also arose, and speech-formation also arises. (Gha) The opposing individual. 54. (Ka) For whom body-formation does not arise, for him, did speech-formation not arise? It arose. (Kha) Or for whom, or speech-formation does not... arose, for him does bodily formation not arise? No. (A) For whom bodily formation does not arise, for him did mental formation not arise? It arose. (B) Or for whom mental formation did not arise, for him does bodily formation not arise? No. 55. (A) For whom verbal formation does not arise, for him did mental formation not arise? It arose. (B) Or for whom... (etc.)? No. (C) The contrary case. 56. Where bodily formation does not arise... (etc.). (D) The contrary persons and cases. 57. (A) For whom, where bodily formation does not arise, for him, there did verbal formation not arise? For those who have attained the first jhāna, for those in the sense-sphere, at the moment of the cessation of their in-breaths and out-breaths, and at the moment of the arising of their consciousness without in-breaths and out-breaths, for those in the form-sphere, for those in the formless-sphere, for them, there, bodily formation does not arise, but for them, there, verbal formation did not arise. For those who have attained the second jhāna, the third jhāna, at the moment of the cessation of their in-breaths and out-breaths, and at the moment of the arising of their consciousness without in-breaths and out-breaths, for those who have attained the fourth jhāna, for the Pure Abodes, when the second consciousness is present, for the non-percipient beings, for them, there, bodily formation does not arise, and verbal formation did not arise. (B) Or for whom, where verbal formation did not arise, for him, there does bodily formation not arise? For those who have attained the second jhāna, the third jhāna, at the moment of the arising of their in-breaths and out-breaths, for them, there, verbal formation did not arise, but for them, there, bodily formation does not arise. For those who have attained the second jhāna, the third jhāna, at the moment of the cessation of their in-breaths and out-breaths, and at the moment of the arising of their consciousness without in-breaths and out-breaths, for those who have attained the fourth jhāna, for the Pure Abodes, when the second consciousness is present, for the non-percipient beings, for them, there, verbal formation did not arise, and bodily formation does not arise. (A) For whom, where bodily formation does not for him there did mental formation not arise? For all, at the moment of the mind's dissolution, without in-breaths and out-breaths, at the moment of the mind's arising, for them there bodily formation does not arise, but for them there mental formation did arise. For those reborn in the Pure Abodes, for non-percipient beings, for them there bodily formation does not arise, and mental formation did not arise. (Kha) Or for whom, or where mental formation did not arise, for him there bodily formation does not arise? Yes. 58. (Ka) For whom, or where verbal formation does not arise, for him there mental formation did not arise? For all, at the moment of the mind's dissolution, without initial application and sustained application, at the moment of the mind's arising, for them there verbal formation does not arise, but for them there mental formation did arise. For those reborn in the Pure Abodes, for non-percipient beings, for them there verbal formation does not arise, and mental formation did not arise. (Kha) Or for whom, or where... (etc.)...? Yes. (5) Section on the Present and Future (Ka) Affirmative Individual 59. (Ka) For whom bodily formation arises, for him verbal formation will arise? Yes. (Kha) Or for whom verbal formation will arise, for him bodily formation arises?