English
Oh, yes. The word "also" is true, meaning to collect, and the word "year" is a word of dissatisfaction. For this illogical statement, those who presumptuously think they understand its rules will say "this is true" and echo it. Therefore, since the sign is not established and uncertain, those who do not understand this are covered and spread by the darkness of ignorance or evil. Furthermore, just as this person who recites the Vedas now, if he has not learned to read from other teachers, then the arrangement of letters, names, and words, and the arrangement of words, have no ability to express or recite. Similarly, for those who some consider the previous eight teachers, etc., to be the authors of the Vedas, it must also be taught by others, so some thinkers say that the Vedas are beginningless and no one created them. Second, through this sign, what is to be proven cannot be completely established. If this sign is established as the subject-property, then it is too much. First, it is shown that this sign is mistaken for not being created. Even if it is merely established as beginningless, it is unnecessary. First, saying "not remembering the author" is also meaningless, because it is not that no one remembers, Buddhists remember that it was created by eight, Miu Tong, Miu Tong Heaven, and various virtuous friends, etc. The teacher of the Vaisheshika school, Kanaada, etc. remember that it was created by the essence of earth, that is, Brahma. If some people think that because they do not remember, it means it was not created, then the old wells of ancestors, etc., would also be considered not created. If Buddhists think that remembering in this way is false, then others remembering that the scriptures were created by people would also be false, because there is no sign of the difference between created and uncreated between the two. If not, then just like the scripture "Youth Arising," which is thought to have been created by the composer Black Woman's People, other scriptures that are newly composed or expanded by people, if there is no secret teaching of reading, etc., taught by previous teachers, then where can one see others reciting at will? Because it is not seen. Then, why not infer from this that the Vedas were also not created? Because the two are similar. In general, even just reading the words of the scriptures, one must learn the model of letters, etc., to begin, and the general terms of the scriptures and the differences between the terms are difficult to understand, if there are no others
Chinese
因為有些事情即使是人為的也無法知曉,所以將這個標誌作為不是人為的證明是沒有意義的。任何一種果實是由什麼因產生的,通過觀察其後續的產生和消失的方式,以量度所見,在任何時間和地點都沒有差別。例如,如果看到有煙的火從木頭中產生,那麼在其他地方也能證明它從那裡產生。由於現在看到,以表達意願為動力,展現各種意義的論典,是從人的思考和努力的因中產生的。因此,即使沒有親眼見到作者本人,其他的吠陀之語,也能正確地知道是從人這個因中產生的,因為它與其他語言相似。關於天鼓和自然產生的文字顯現的說法,是因為佛陀的加持和所化眾生善根增長的力量而顯現的,因為這是經文中指示的詞語,所以不是常恆、無意義、無作用,也不是人為的。從密咒中說到的不壞之聲等等,這裡不提,因為在這裡,僅僅通過對可以用現量衡量的對象進行否定和遮止,就能夠反駁外道的不良觀點,而外道沒有能力通過現量來證成超越現量的深奧意義,因為他們執著於事物。因此,如果確定其他的學習者先於自己,從無始以來就存在,並且不是人為的,那麼年輕人的出現等等也不是人為的,而且對於現在的論典作者來說,由於之後也適用這個標誌,所以這也不是他們所為。此外,就像客人送來的火蔓延開來,即使原來的火先存在,也不能無限地延續下去,就像通過摩擦木頭的力量也能產生火一樣,現在的人們即使不通過自己的力量來了解吠陀,最初的吠陀作者也能在沒有老師的情況下,自己了解並講解。不能證明這是不可能的,因為現在的人不能這樣做。因為沒有規定所有人的能力都是相同的,就像一個人知道的事情不是所有人都知道一樣,所以會看到各種各樣的差異。例如,仙人 重複增長。
English
Since some things are unknowable even if done by humans, it is meaningless to posit that sign as proof of not being done by humans. Whatever kind of fruit arises from whatever cause, as seen by valid cognition by observing the manner of its subsequent arising and ceasing, there is no difference at any time or place. For example, if one sees smoke-filled fire arising from wood here, it is proven to arise from that elsewhere as well. Since it is now seen that treatises showing various meanings by the power of the desire to express arise from the cause of human thought and effort, therefore, even if the author is not actually seen, these other Vedic words are also rightly known to arise from that human cause, because they are similar to other kinds of speech. The statements about the appearance of the divine drum and naturally occurring letters are said to appear due to the blessing of the Buddha and the power of the white qualities of those to be tamed increasing, because they are words indicating the scriptures, so they are not permanent, meaningless, and incapable of action, nor are they made by humans. The indestructible sound and so forth spoken of in the mantras are not mentioned here, because here, by merely negating and cutting off imputations on objects that can be measured by direct perception, one can refute the bad views of the tirthikas, but the tirthikas do not have the means to establish profound meanings that transcend direct perception, because they are attached to things. Therefore, if it is certain that other learners have gone before, and if it is established that they exist from beginningless time and are not made, then the appearance of youths and so forth are also not made by them, and for the current treatise writers as well, since that sign applies later, it also becomes not made by them. Furthermore, just as when a fire sent by a guest spreads, even though the original fire existed before, it cannot infinitely continue that fire, just as it can also arise by the power of rubbing wood, so even if present people do not know the Vedas by their own power, it is possible that some of the original Vedic authors knew and explained them themselves without a teacher. It cannot be proven that this is impossible, because present people cannot do so. Because there is no certainty that all people have equal abilities, just as what one person knows is not known by everyone, so various differences are seen. For example, the sage Repeatedly grows.
Tibetan
གར་གྱི་བསྟན་བཅོས་བྷ་ར་ཏ་ཞེས་པ་རང་གིས་ཤེས་ནས་བྱས་པར་འདོད་པ་དེ་ཡང་ད་ལྟ་གཞན་གྱིས་བསླབ་དགོས་པ་ལ་སོགས་པ་བཞིན་ནོ། །གཞན་ཡང་། རིག་བྱེད་ནི་རིག་བྱེད་ཡིན་ལ། གཞན་ལ་དེ་མེད་པས་རིག་བྱེད་ནི་མ་བྱས་པའོ་སྙམ་ན། ད་ལྟ་ཁ་བྱའམ་ཁ་གཏམ་བྱས་པ་གནའ་རབས་ཀྱི་ལོ་རྒྱུས་ལ་སོགས་པའི་ཚིག་ཀྱང་དེ་མིན་པ་གཞན་མིན་པས་ན་དེ་ཡང་མ་བྱས་པར་ཐལ་ལོ། །རིག་བྱེད་ནས་ལས་སྣ་ཚོགས་བྱེད་པའི་སྔགས་བསྟན་ལ། སྐྱེས་བུ་ལ་སྔགས་བྱེད་པའི་ནུས་པ་མེད་དོ་སྙམ་ན། བདེན་པ་དང་དཀའ་ཐུབ་ལྡན་པའི་སྐྱེས་བུས་སྔགས་བྱས་པ་ནི་སངས་རྒྱས་པ་ལ་སོགས་པའི་གཞུང་དུའང་ཡོད་ན་དེ་ཡང་མ་བྱས་པར་འགྱུར་རོ། །སངས་རྒྱས་པའི་སྔགས་དག་ཀྱང་དུག་ལ་སོགས་པ་ཞི་བའི་ནུས་པ་མངོན་སུམ་གྲུབ་ན་ནུས་ལྡན་གྱི་སྔགས་བསྟན་པའི་གཞུང་དེ་སྐྱེས་བུས་མ་བྱས་པར་ཁས་ལེན་པ་དོན་མེད་དོ། །སངས་རྒྱས་པའི་གཞུང་གི་སྔགས་སྔགས་མ་ཡིན་ནོ་སྙམ་ན་སྒྲུབ་བྱེད་མེད་པར་མནའ་ཆུ་བཏུང་དགོས་པ་ཙམ་དུ་ཟད་དོ། །གཞན་ཡང་ཕྱག་རྒྱ་དང་བསམ་གཏན་ལ་སོགས་པ་ཡི་གེ་མེད་པ་དག་གིས་ཀྱང་ལས་བྱེད་པ་ཡོད་ན་དེ་དག་ཀྱང་སྐྱེས་བུས་མ་བྱས་པར་འགྱུར་རོ། །སྐྱེས་བུས་སྔགས་བྱེད་ནུས་ན་ཐམས་ཅད་ཀྱིས་ཅི་ཕྱིར་མི་བྱེད་སྙམ་ན། སྐྱེས་བུ་གཅིག་སྙན་དངགས་བྱེད་པའི་ཕྱིར་ཐམས་ཅད་ཀྱིས་ཅི་ཕྱིར་མི་བྱེད། མི་བྱེད་ན་གཅིག་ཀྱང་མི་བྱེད་པར་འགྱུར་ཞེས་སྨྲ་བ་ལྟར་གྱི་ན་སྟེ། ནུས་པ་ཁྱད་པར་དང་ལྡན་པའི་སྐྱེས་བུ་ཡོད་པ་ལ་འགལ་བ་ཅན་གྱི་ཚད་མ་མི་འཇུག་པས་རང་གི་དབང་པོའི་སྤྱོད་ཡུལ་དུ་མ་གྱུར་པ་ཙམ་གྱིས་དེ་འགོག་པར་རིགས་པ་མ་ཡིན་ནོ། །སྐྱེས་བུ་ཁྱད་ པར་བ་ཁེགས་མི་ནུས་པར་བསྟན་པ་འདིས་ཐམས་ཅད་མཁྱེན་པའི་ཡེ་ཤེས་མི་སྲིད་པར་བསྒྲུབ་པ་ལའང་ལན་ངེས་པར་བསྟན་པ་ཡིན་ནོ། །དེ་ལྟར་ན་རིག་བྱེད་དེ་ལའང་སྐྱེས་བུས་བྱས་པའི་འབྲས་བུར་མཚུངས་པ་མཐོང་བའི་ཕྱིར་བྱས་མ་བྱས་ཀྱི་ཁྱད་པར་ཡོད་པའི་གཏན་ཚིགས་དག་ནི་མ་བསྟན་པར། མི་དྲན་པ་དང་ཐོག་མ་མེད་པ་སོགས་གཏན་ཚིགས་ལྟར་སྣང་བ་རབ་ཏུ་སྤྲོས་པ་གང་ཡིན་པ་དེ་དག་ཐམས་ཅད་མ་བྱས་པ་དེ་སྒྲུབ་པ་ལ་མ་ངེས་ཤིང་མ་གྲུབ་པའི་འཁྲུལ་པ་ཅན་འབའ་ཞིག་ཡིན་ནོ། །གཉིས་པ་ནི། གལ་ཏེ་རིག་བྱེད་འདི་རྣམ་པ་ཀུན་ཏུ་ཐོག་མ་མེད་པ་ཙམ་དུ་གྲུབ་པར་གྱུར་དུ་ཆུག་མོད། དེ་ལྟར་ཡིན་ནའང་སྐྱེས་བུ་མིན་པའི་རྟེན་ཅན་ཏེ་སྐྱེས་བུས་མ་བྱས་པ་མིན་ནོ། །ཅིའི་ཕྱིར་ཞེ་ན། ཐོག་མེད་ཙམ་ཡིན་པ་དེ་ཕྱིར་སྐྱེས་བུས་མ
Chinese
关于舞蹈论著《婆罗多》自认为理解后所作,也和现在需要别人教导一样。另外,吠陀是吠陀,因为别人没有,就认为吠陀不是人造的,如果这样想,那么现在说话或谈论的古代历史等词语,也不是其他的,因此也成了非人造的了。吠陀中宣说了能做各种事业的咒语,如果认为人没有念咒的能力,那么具有真实和苦行的修行者念咒,在佛教等的论典中也有,那么这也成了非人造的了。佛教的咒语等,如果明显成立具有平息毒等的威力,那么承认宣说有能力的咒语的论典不是人造的,是没有意义的。如果认为佛教论典的咒语不是咒语,那么只能毫无根据地发誓而已。另外,如果手印和禅定等没有文字也能起作用,那么这些也成了非人造的了。如果人能念咒,为什么大家都不念呢?就像说因为一个人能作诗,为什么大家都不作诗?如果不作,那么一个也不作一样。因为对于具有特殊能力的人,不适用相违的量,仅仅因为不是自己感官的对境,就否定它是不合理的。通过显示不能驳倒特殊的人,这也一定是指出了对于论证全知智慧是不可能的答复。这样一来,因为见到吠陀也和人造的结果相同,所以对于没有指出已作和未作的差别存在的理由,凡是详细阐述不记得和无始等似乎是理由的,那些都是在论证未作时,是不确定和未成立的迷惑而已。第二,假设吠陀在一切方面都成立是无始的,即使如此,也不是非人的所依,即不是人造的。为什么呢?仅仅是无始,因此不是人
English
The treatise on dance called Bharata, which is thought to have been composed after understanding it oneself, is just like how one needs to be taught by others now. Furthermore, the Veda is the Veda, and because others do not have it, if one thinks that the Veda is not man-made, then the words of ancient history, etc., spoken or discussed now, are not other than that, so they also become non-man-made. In the Vedas, mantras that can perform various actions are proclaimed. If one thinks that humans do not have the ability to recite mantras, then the recitation of mantras by practitioners who possess truth and asceticism is also found in Buddhist and other treatises, so that also becomes non-man-made. If the Buddhist mantras, etc., are clearly established to have the power to pacify poisons, etc., then it is meaningless to admit that the treatises that proclaim powerful mantras are not man-made. If one thinks that the mantras in Buddhist treatises are not mantras, then one can only swear groundlessly. Furthermore, if mudras and meditations, etc., can also function without letters, then those also become non-man-made. If humans can recite mantras, why doesn't everyone do it? It's like saying, because one person can compose poetry, why doesn't everyone compose poetry? If they don't compose, then no one composes. Because contradictory valid cognition does not apply to people with special abilities, it is unreasonable to deny it merely because it is not the object of one's own senses. By showing that special people cannot be refuted, this also definitely points out the answer to the argument that omniscient wisdom is impossible. In this way, because it is seen that the Veda also has the same results as man-made things, therefore, without pointing out the reasons for the existence of the difference between what has been done and what has not been done, all those who elaborately explain things like not remembering and beginninglessness, which seem to be reasons, are only uncertain and unestablished delusions in proving what has not been done. Secondly, suppose the Veda is established to be beginningless in all aspects, even so, it is not a non-human support, that is, it is not man-made. Why? Merely being beginningless, therefore not