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B040205Vinayapiṭaka (pu vi)(vinaya pitaka q and a)

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Venerable sir, it is the case of an offense. Question – Friend, among the seven kinds of settlements, by how many settlements is it settled? Answer – Venerable sir, among the seven kinds of settlements, it is settled by two settlements: by settlement in the presence, and by acknowledgement. Question – Friend, what is the discipline there? What is the higher discipline there? Answer – Venerable sir, the discipline is the precept, the higher discipline is the analysis. Question – Friend, what is the Pātimokkha there? What is the higher Pātimokkha there? Answer – Venerable sir, the Pātimokkha is the precept, the higher Pātimokkha is the analysis. Question – Friend, what is failure? Answer – Venerable sir, non-restraint is failure. Question – Friend, what is success? Answer – Venerable sir, restraint is success. Question – Friend, what is the practice there? Answer – Venerable sir, "I will not do such a thing" – taking up and training in the training rules for as long as life lasts, until the end of breath – this is the practice there. Question – Friend, for how many reasons was the third Pārājika enacted by the Blessed One? Answer – Venerable sir, for ten reasons was the third Pārājika enacted by the Blessed One: for the purity of the Saṅgha, for the well-being of the Saṅgha, (and so on), for the support of the discipline. Question – Friend, who trains? Answer – Venerable sir, those in training and virtuous ordinary people train. Question – Friend, who are those whose training is completed? Answer – Venerable sir, Arahants are those whose training is completed. Question – Friend, where does it stand? Answer – Venerable sir, it stands in those who desire to train. Question – Friend, who upholds it? Answer – Venerable sir, those for whom it is applicable, they uphold it. Question – Friend, whose word is it? Answer – Venerable sir, it is the word of the Blessed One, the Arahant, the Perfectly Self-Enlightened One. Question – Friend, by whom was it brought? Answer – Venerable sir, it was brought by tradition. Question – Friend, is there anything there... or to be added, or to be removed, or with letters and words reversed, or with incorrect words and syllables. Answer: There is not, venerable sir. Notification to the Saṅgha for the purpose of recitation: May the Saṅgha hear me, venerable sirs. I, venerable sirs, asked the venerable Vicittasārābhivaṃsa, the Tipitaka-holder, the Treasurer of the Dhamma, about the origin of the third pārājika, about the person, about the case, about the promulgation, about the supplementary promulgation, about the offense, about the non-offense, and many other such points to be asked. And being asked, the venerable Vicittasārābhivaṃsa answered. Thus, venerable sirs, this third pārājika training rule is stainless and perfectly pure, the very word of the Blessed One, the Arahant, the Perfectly Self-Enlightened One. Therefore, just as in the past, the great elder monks, led by Mahākassapa, the ancient reciters, for the long endurance of the Buddha's Dispensation, which is called the holy life, for the welfare of many, for the happiness of many, out of compassion for the world, for the good, for the benefit, for the happiness of gods and humans, recited and re-recited the Dhamma and Vinaya, even so, we too, all of us now, included in this great Dhamma assembly of the Sixth Saṅgāyana, having performed a group recitation together, being united and harmonious, should recite this third pārājika training rule. Inquiry about the Fourth Pārājika Training Rule: Question: That which, friend, by the Blessed One, the Knower, the Seer... (etc.) ...the Perfectly Self-Enlightened One, where was the fourth pārājika promulgated? Answer: In Vesālī, venerable sir. Question: Concerning whom, friend, was it promulgated? Answer: Concerning the monks on the bank of the Vaggumudā, venerable sir, it was promulgated. Question: Concerning what case, friend, was it promulgated? Answer: The monks on the bank of the Vaggumudā, venerable sir, spoke of each other's superhuman states to lay people. Concerning that case, venerable sir, it was promulgated. Question: Is there, friend, in that (rule) a promulgation, a supplementary promulgation, and an unpromulgated promulgation? Answer: Venerable sir, there is one original rule, one supplementary rule, no unarisen rule in this. Question: Friend, what is the original rule here? Answer: Whatever monk, not knowing, should declare a superhuman state, a superhuman state pertaining to himself, a noble knowledge and vision, saying, "Thus I know, thus I see," and then at a later time, being pressed or not being pressed, having fallen, desiring purification, should say, "Friends, not knowing, I spoke thus; not seeing, I said I saw; it was empty, false babbling," he too is defeated, not in communion. This, venerable sir, is the original rule here. Question: Friend, what is the supplementary rule here? Answer: Except for overestimation. This, venerable sir, is the supplementary rule here. There are, Ananda, those monks who, in the undiscerned, perceive the discerned; in the unobtained, perceive the obtained; in the unreached, perceive the reached; in the unverified, perceive the verified; they declare a state of attainment through overestimation. But this is not to be spoken of. Question: Friend, what is the complete rule here? Answer: Whatever monk, not knowing, should declare a superhuman state, a noble knowledge and vision pertaining to himself, saying, "Thus I know, thus I see," and then at a later time, being pressed or not being pressed, having fallen, desiring purification, should say, "Friends, not knowing, I spoke thus; not seeing, I said I saw; it was empty, false babbling," except for overestimation, he too is defeated, not in communion. This, venerable sir, is the complete rule here. Question: Friend, is it a universal rule or a partial rule? Answer: It is a universal rule, venerable sir. Question: Friend, is it a common rule or an uncommon rule? Answer: It is a common rule, venerable sir. Question: Friend, is it a rule for one side or a rule for both sides? Answer: It is a rule for both sides, venerable sir. Question: Friend, in this fourth pārājika, a Proclaiming a non-existent, untrue superhuman state, how many offenses does one incur? Explain by dividing. Answer: Venerable sir, in that fourth pārājika, proclaiming a non-existent, untrue superhuman state, one incurs three offenses. Proclaiming a non-existent, untrue superhuman state, one incurs a pārājika offense. If one says, "The monk who dwells in your monastery is an Arahant," for one who knows (it's false), it's an offense of grave fault. For one who does not know (it's false), it's an offense of wrong-doing. Venerable sir, proclaiming a superhuman state, one incurs these three offenses. Question: For whom, friend, is there no offense? Answer: Venerable sir, for six persons there is no offense: for one who speaks out of over-estimation, for one whose intention is not to boast, for a mad person, for one whose mind is disturbed, for one afflicted by pain, for the first offender. Question: Of the five recitations of the Pātimokkha, friend, in which is it rooted? In which is it included? Answer: Venerable sir, it is rooted in the Nidāna. It is included in the Nidāna. Question: By which recitation, friend, does it come to recitation? Answer: By the second recitation, venerable sir, it comes to recitation. Question: Of the four failures, friend, which is the failure? Answer: Venerable sir, it is failure in morality. Question: Of the seven groups of offenses, friend, which is the group of offenses? Answer: Venerable sir, it is the pārājika group of offenses. Question: Of the six origins of offenses, friend, by how many origins does it arise? Answer: Venerable sir, of the six origins of offenses, it arises by three origins. Sometimes it arises from body and mind, not from speech. Sometimes it arises from speech and mind, not from body. Sometimes it arises from body, speech, and mind. Question: Of the four cases, friend, which is the case? Answer: Venerable sir, it is the case of offense. Question: Of the seven ways of settling, friend, by how many ways of settling is it settled? Answer: Venerable sir, of the seven ways of settling, by two ways of settling. Come, good sir, by the Vinaya in the presence, and by acknowledgment. Question: What, friend, is Vinaya there? What is Abhivinaya there? Answer: Vinaya, venerable sir, is the designation. Abhivinaya is the analysis. Question: What, friend, is Pātimokkha there? What is Adhipātimokkha? Answer: Pātimokkha, venerable sir, is the designation. Adhipātimokkha is the analysis. Question: What, friend, is failure? Answer: Non-restraint, venerable sir, is failure. Question: What, friend, is success? Answer: Restraint, venerable sir, is success. Question: What, friend, is the practice there? Answer: "I will not do such a thing" — taking up and training in the precepts for life, until the end of life, this, venerable sir, is the practice there. Question: For how many reasons, friend, was the fourth Pārājika laid down by the Blessed One? Answer: For ten reasons, venerable sir, was the fourth Pārājika laid down by the Blessed One: for the excellence of the Saṅgha, for the comfort of the Saṅgha… and for the support of the Vinaya. Question: Who, friend, trains? Answer: Trainees, venerable sir, and virtuous ordinary people train. Question: Who, friend, are those whose training is completed? Answer: Arahants, venerable sir, are those whose training is completed. Question: Where, friend, is it established? Answer: It is established, venerable sir, in those who desire to train. Question: Who, friend, upholds it? Answer: Those, venerable sir, for whom it is applicable, uphold it. Question: Whose word, friend, is it?