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KMG130 0002.Response to the Debates Arising Successively in the Tibetan Nyingma Tradition.Named Dragon’s Roar of Definitive Meaning.g2.0f

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The five stages and the five stages of Chakrasamvara are not the same. Therefore, settle your own mind. Also, however, to you, there appear hundreds, thousands, and even millions of tantras. What are said to be scriptures and instructions are spread throughout this land of snow. Therefore, like the Six Dharmas of Naropa, Niguma, and the Lamdre, the instructions of the tantras are not something that the lama extracted separately. It is said that in the treasury of the Dakinis and in Akanishta, there are sixty-four hundred thousand tantras. But in this land of Tibet, there appear only seven or eight volumes of the translated Mind Stream Instruction Section tantras. Not all Nyingma tantras are Dzogchen. Even if all the tantras are combined, there are only about thirty-seven volumes. Therefore, saying hundreds, thousands, or millions, what happened, was it an illusion? All the subsequent instructions that explain the meaning of the tantras are the tradition of the Nyingma. Why would you need the Six Dharmas and Lamdre? Also, however, the manner of words and meaning, the order of rituals, the style of the scriptures, your scriptures are definitely of the same kind. This is because, earlier, you yourself said that your Mind Stream Instruction Section scriptures are not consistent with each other, and that there are internal contradictions in empowerment, view, meditation, conduct, and the order of the path. This contradicts what you just said. Also, just as the Bonpos translated the Dharma, because they relied on the Dharma, although the form is similar, the difference lies in emphasizing the root. Similar but not the same is the tradition of Bon. Likewise, your teachings are also similar but not the same, belonging to different schools. The names are similar to the Dharma, but the wording and rituals are close to Bon. There are eighty-four thousand Dharma gates, and Bon also has similar ones. Therefore, both the new and old schools have similarities. Look at the Bon scriptures and you will know. Also, if your scriptures are the words of the Buddha, and are definitely reliable, then, because they contradict your scriptures, all the correct tantras appear to be wrong. If the correct tantric scriptures are reliable, then your scriptures must be wrong. Therefore, it must be the Dharma of demons. Then, if the sacred Vinaya is reliable, then, because it contradicts the Mahayana, the Prajnaparamita appears to be wrong. If the vehicle of Prajnaparamita is reliable,

Chinese

如果确定是量士夫,那么是要说律部的经典是错的吗?词句意义次第不相符,上乘下乘一切都有。还有,像这样续部无边无际,大圆满的法类,在印度出现,并且成为自在,如果这是真的。那么邬金、喀什米尔等,肯定在圣地弘扬。续和成就圣士夫的论典,理应作为一切的证明。对此,每一殊胜乘续部,都有许多其他的续出名。大圆满续部的,连名字也没有出现啊。在《金刚心要庄严续》中说,密聚一千部,金刚鬘三百万部,意旨授记四百万部,四天女所问七百部,月密明点七千八百部,金刚地下一百二十部。又《帐续》中说,空行乐和海乐与虚空,以及金雨和极喜能食,以及大乐欢喜和秘密意乐,对于那些续有利益的金刚空行,以及令一切佛欢喜的金刚坛城,以及秘密藏和金刚甘露所生,轮快乐殊胜帐和圆满等。又《金刚鬘》中说,金刚萨埵 瓦姆金刚,金刚怖畏金刚自在,黑汝嘎和时轮,最初佛等等的名字。又在阎魔敌红尊的第二十二品中说,嘿金刚所说,解脱也同样是戒律,在密集等续中也有。又在阎魔敌黑尊的续中说,续的究竟是密集。等等。对于这些,虽然你把续的教证,作为注释和后盾,但是《金刚心要庄严》和《帐续》,《金刚鬘》和红黑阎魔敌,像这样在那五个续部中,只是说了续的安住方式的粗略部分,不是续部百万的目录。如果那些里面没有包括,不是佛法就是新的,需要舍弃许多续部。唉呀,这没有什么可奇怪的。还有,印度、喀什米尔、邬金和,香巴拉和尼泊尔的,成就圣士夫的论典百部中,你的宗派

English

If it is certain to be a valid person, then is it saying that the Vinaya scriptures are wrong? The order of words and meanings does not match, all of the higher and lower vehicles have it. Also, like this, the tantras are endless, this cycle of Great Perfection teachings, appeared in India, and became empowered, if this is true. Then Oddiyana, Kashmir, etc., must be propagated in the holy land. Tantras and treatises of accomplished holy people, should be taken as proof of everything. For that, in each Supreme Vehicle Tantra, there are many other tantras that are famous. Of the Great Perfection Tantras, even the names do not appear. In the Vajra Heart Ornament Tantra, it says, Guhyasamaja one thousand, Vajra Garland three hundred thousand, Intent Prophecy four hundred thousand, Asked by Four Goddesses seven hundred, Moon Secret Bindu seven thousand eight hundred, Vajra Underground one hundred and twenty. And in the Tent Tantra, the bliss of the Dakini and the bliss of the ocean and the sky, and the rain of gold and the great joy of eating, and the great bliss of joy and the secret mind of ease, the Vajra Dakini that benefits those tantras, and the Vajra Mandala that pleases all Buddhas, and the secret treasury and the Vajra nectar born from, the Wheel of Bliss Supreme Tent and the perfect ones. And in the Vajra Garland, Vajrasattva Vam Vajra, Vajra Bhairava Vajra Lord, Heruka and Kalachakra, the names of the first Buddha and so on. And in the twenty-second chapter of Red Yamari, said, Hevajra said, liberation is also the same as discipline, also in the tantras such as the Guhyasamaja. And in the tantra of Black Yamari, The ultimate of the tantra is the Guhyasamaja. etc. For these, although you put the scriptural authority of the tantra, as a commentary and support, but the Vajra Heart Ornament and the Tent, the Vajra Garland and the Red and Black Yamari, like that in those five tantras, only said a rough part of the way the tantra resides, it is not a catalog of a million tantras. If those are not included in it, if it is not Dharma then it is new, many tantras need to be abandoned. Alas, there is nothing strange about this. Also, India, Kashmir, Oddiyana, and, Shambhala and Nepal, among the hundred treatises of accomplished holy people, your doctrine

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名字也没有。这样说来,寂静友新旧和,罗布古雅香提嘎,这些等等印度阿阇黎和,邬金堪布哈帝和,克什米尔的阿阇黎比玛拉,尼泊尔希拉曼觉和,这些等等各自的阿阇黎们,过去在藏地翻译了很多续、释、诀窍、论典。在智者成就者的论著中也有,《菩提道灯论》合修的解释和,《名号赞》克什米尔派的解释,在这些等等的论典中,百天树、觉沃仁波切,日光狮子比玛拉,秘密藏续、降魔杵,尸林布谷鸟嬉戏和,幻化八十品等等的,没有见到引用了很多教证吗?上面说是经教和窍诀,说遍布雪域,这里连名字也没有啊。刚说完就忘记,就像脓水进入心中一样。还有,《事师五十颂》和,《瑜伽圆鬘金刚鬘》,《成就法海》等等,在灌顶和修法的所有仪轨中,《噶举八大法行》和,《大圆满》的法类等等,你的修法仪轨和,续部灌顶仪轨没有听过啊。这样说来,那些之中没有听过,就变成非佛语非法,在人居住的地方没有听过的,所有续部都变成非法了吗?在那边宁玛派没有出名,但是,扬达黑茹嘎等等的,很多成就者在汉藏,出现的这种方式谁能否定呢?如果大圆满不是佛法,寂静友、吉祥狮子、智慧经,莲花生、比玛拉,这些等等印度大班智达和,娘本定增、杰尊和,大成就者梅隆多杰和,秘密主大乐任运等等,在藏地虹身成就者们,全部都是持有大圆满的人。君臣二十五人,昆、杰、嘉、贝,沃、扎、索、祖、努等等的,成就者次第数不胜数。全部都是宁玛派的法脉。从在藏地建立佛法开始,直到现在,佛的教法也是宁玛派守护的。萨迦派的帐篷怙主和,杰和嘉的虎座和,香巴噶举派的,六臂

English

And there is no name either. Speaking of which, Jampe Shenyen (Mañjuśrīmitra) old and new, Rombu Guhya Shantingga, these and other Indian masters, Ugyen Khenpo Hati, Kashmiri master Vimala, Nepali Shila Manju, and other individual masters, in the past, translated many tantras, commentaries, instructions, and treatises in Tibet. In the treatises of wise and accomplished masters, there are also commentaries on "Lamp for the Path to Enlightenment" and "Combined Practice", and commentaries on "Namasangiti" in the Kashmiri style. In these and other treatises, Jowo Je (Atiśa), the wish-fulfilling tree of Indra, Nyio Serngé (Sunlight Lion) Vimala, the Secret Essence Tantra, Ngampa Lok (Fearsome Lightning), the playful cuckoo in the charnel ground, and the eighty magical illusions, etc., haven't you seen that many quotes were cited? Above, it was said to be scripture and instructions, saying it pervades the snowy land, but here there is not even a name. Forgetting as soon as it is said, it's like pus entering the heart. Also, "Collected from All Activities", "Yoga Perfect Garland Vajra Garland", "Ocean of Sadhana Methods", etc., in all the empowerments and sadhana texts, "Eight Herukas of the Practice Lineage" and "Great Perfection" Dharma cycles, etc., your sadhana rituals and, tantra empowerment rituals have not been heard of. Speaking of which, if they are not heard of among those, then they become non-Buddha-word and non-Dharma. If all the tantras that are not heard of in the land of humans become non-Dharma, even though Nyingma is not famous in that region, who can deny the way in which many accomplished ones such as Yangdak Heruka have appeared in China and Tibet? However, even if Dzogchen is not Dharma, Jampal Shri Singha Yeshe Do, Padmasambhava Vimala, these and other great Indian paṇḍitas, Nyangben Tingdzin Lhetsun, great accomplished Melong Dorje, Secret Lord Great Bliss Lhundrup, etc., all those who have attained rainbow body in Tibet are all holders of Dzogchen. The twenty-five disciples of the king, Khon, Gyeu, Gya, Be, Wo, Dra, So, Zur, Nup, etc., the succession of accomplished ones is countless. All are the Nyingma Dharma lineage. From the time Buddhism was established in Tibet until now, the Buddha's teachings have also been protected by the Nyingma. The tent protector of the Sakya, the tiger seat of Lhe and Gya, and the Shangpa Kagyu, the six-armed one.

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具有饰品的, 纳塘巴的弯刀, 同样多瓦的刮刀, 噶玛巴的黑帽者, 嘉雍金刚常住母。 总而言之,藏地的护法们, 仅仅是宁玛派的教言和伏藏。 凶猛残暴的鬼神被宁玛派降伏, 遣除不幸障碍的方法也, 大多通过宁玛派的途径进行。 上至修持成佛, 下至诛杀怨敌邪魔为止, 所有例子都实际应验。 汉藏大多数的智者成就者们, 都是无上的逝后足迹。 那些都可以舍弃。 对于获得定解的菩萨, 魔会示现佛的形象, 说即使转变也不会改变。 经中说:魔变化成佛的形象后说,你的那个不是佛法。 像这样从多种途径进行阻挠,也无法转变菩萨,火变成水,水变成火等等,大的元素可能会转变,但对于佛法获得定解的菩萨是不会改变的。 像这样,《八千颂》中说:例如从无上菩提开始,就会说真实的话语,对于真实的话语会感到非常欢喜,那些人会安住于此,并且等同于般若波罗蜜多,魔也无法分离,更不用说其他的众生通过欲望或者咒语来分离了。 还有, 在此藏地莲花生大师的, 灌顶和修法无边显现。 莲花生大师的上师和, 上师的上师等等, 像莲花生大师一样的成就者, 在圣地出现无数。 那些各自无论对于谁, 灌顶和修法都没有。 这样说,这也是自己见识浅薄。 大成就者阿底峡, 布让赞普沃德和, 米娘译师所赐予的, 八十四位成就者的, 灌顶和随许修法和, 圆满次第证悟传记等等, 九种法类有两个函, 在汉藏两地非常兴盛。 谁又不把俄·雷必喜饶和仲敦巴, 视为量士夫呢? 噶当十六明点也是, 上师的甚深灌顶引导。 上下竹巴等等。

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Having ornaments, The curved knife of Narthangpa, Likewise, the scraper of Dowa, The black hat of Karmapa, Gyanyon Dorje Rabtenma. In short, all the Dharma protectors of Tibet, Are solely the teachings and treasures of the Nyingma school. The fierce and cruel demons are subdued by the Nyingma school, The methods for averting misfortunes and obstacles are also, Mostly done through the Nyingma school. From the upper limit of practicing to attain Buddhahood, To the lower limit of subduing enemies and obstructing spirits, All examples are actually fulfilled. The vast majority of wise and accomplished ones in both China and Tibet, Are the unsurpassed footprints of the departed. All of those can be relinquished. For a Bodhisattva who has gained certainty, The demon will show the form of a Buddha, Saying that even if it transforms, it will not change. In the Sutra, it says: The demon transforms into the form of a Buddha and says, 'That is not your Dharma.' Like this, even if obstructed from many paths, a Bodhisattva cannot be transformed. Fire turning into water, water turning into fire, etc., the great elements may transform, but a Bodhisattva who has gained certainty in the Dharma will not change. Like this, in the Eight Thousand Verse Prajnaparamita Sutra, it says: 'For example, starting from unsurpassed Bodhi, one will speak the truth, one will be very happy with the truth, those will abide well in it, and will be equal to the Prajnaparamita. Even the demon cannot separate them, let alone other sentient beings who can separate them through desire or mantras.' Also, In this land of Tibet, the empowerments and methods of practice of Guru Padmasambhava, Appear limitless. The Guru of Guru Padmasambhava and, The Guru of the Guru, and so on, Accomplished ones like Padmasambhava, Have appeared immeasurably in the sacred land. Those, individually, for whomever, There are no empowerments and methods of practice. Saying this is also seeing oneself as small. The great accomplished one Atisha, And the Puhrang King Wode and, The translator Menyak gave, The empowerments and subsequent permissions and methods of practice of the eighty-four accomplished ones, and, The completion stage, biographies of realization, etc., Nine Dharma categories in two volumes, Are very prevalent in both China and Tibet. Who does not regard Ngok Lekpai Sherab and Dromtonpa, As reliable persons? The Sixteen Bindus of the Kadampa are also, The profound empowerment guidance of the Guru. Upper and Lower Drukpa, and so on.