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B040205Vinayapiṭaka (pu vi)(vinaya pitaka q and a)

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Having approached, they said to those suspending monks: "Friends, concerning the matter where there was a quarrel, a dispute, a contention, a controversy, a schism in the Sangha, a division in the Sangha, a separation in the Sangha, a disagreement in the Sangha, that monk has fallen into an offense, was suspended, and has seen it, and has been reinstated. Come, friends, let us make peace in the Sangha for the settlement of that matter." Sir, in that matter, it was permitted. Question: I shall ask about Kosambi, with its origin, with its explanation. Friends, how many offenses are there in the category of 'samukkaṭṭhapada'? Answer: I shall answer about Kosambi, with its origin, with its explanation. Sir, in the category of 'samukkaṭṭhapada', there is one offense. Cūḷavagga Pāli 1. The Chapter on Kambha Question: Friends, for a monk who causes quarrels, etc., where was the act of admonition permitted by the Blessed One? Concerning whom, in what matter, was it permitted? Answer: Sir, in Sāvatthī, concerning the monks named Paṇḍuka and Lohitaka, it was permitted. Sir, the monks Paṇḍuka and Lohitaka were themselves causers of quarrels, causers of disputes, causers of contentions, causers of strife, causers of legal questions in the Sangha. And also other monks who were causers of quarrels, causers of disputes, causers of contentions, causers of strife, causers of legal questions in the Sangha, approached them and said this: "Venerable sirs, do not let him defeat you. Retort with strength against strength. You are wiser than him, more articulate than him, more learned than him, more capable than him. Do not fear him. We too will be on your side." Because of this, quarrels that had not arisen, arose, and quarrels that had arisen led to greater intensity and expansion. Sir, in that matter, it was permitted. Question: Friends, for a monk on whom the act of admonition has been performed, in how many observances, when he conducts himself properly, was it permitted by the Blessed One to revoke that act...? Where was it permitted? Concerning whom, in what matter, was it permitted? Answer – Sir, it was permitted by the Blessed One in Sāvatthī to revoke that act for a monk who had been subjected to the act of rebuke and was conducting himself properly in eighteen observances. Those very monks, the Paṇḍukalohitakas, who had been subjected to the act of rebuke by the Saṅgha, conducted themselves properly, approached the Saṅgha, and requested it. Sir, it was permitted in that matter. Question – Friend, where was the act of suspension prescribed for a foolish, incompetent, offense-prone, unreliable monk, who associated with laypeople through inappropriate lay associations? Concerning whom, in what matter, was it prescribed? Answer – Sir, it was prescribed in Sāvatthī concerning the venerable Seyyasaka. Sir, the venerable Seyyasaka was foolish, incompetent, offense-prone, unreliable, and lived associating with laypeople through inappropriate lay associations. Sir, it was prescribed in that matter. Question – Friend, for a monk who has been subjected to the act of suspension, in how many observances must he conduct himself properly for the Blessed One to permit the revocation of that act? Answer – Sir, it was permitted by the Blessed One to revoke that act for a monk who had been subjected to the act of suspension and was conducting himself properly in eighteen observances. He should not give ordination, he should not give dependence, he should not attend to a novice, he should not accept the appointment of an instructress of nuns, and even if appointed, he should not instruct nuns. Sir, it was permitted by the Blessed One to revoke that act for a monk who had been subjected to the act of suspension and was conducting himself properly in these and other eighteen observances. Question – Friend, where was it permitted by the Blessed One to perform the act of banishment for a monk who corrupted families and had evil conduct? Concerning whom, in what matter, was it permitted? Answer – Sir, it was permitted in Sāvatthī concerning the monks Assaji and Punabbasu. Sir, the monks Assaji and Punabbasu were corrupting families in Kīṭāgiri. they were of evil conduct, in that matter, venerable sir, it was permitted. Question – I ask, friends, about the act of reconciliation. Where, friends, was it permitted by the Blessed One to perform the act of reconciliation for a monk who disparaged with contempt a faithful, confident householder, a giver, a doer, a supporter of the Saṅgha? Concerning whom, in what matter, was it permitted? Answer – In Sāvatthī, venerable sir, it was permitted concerning Venerable Sudhamma. When the Blessed One, venerable sir, was dwelling in Sāvatthī, Venerable Sudhamma, in Macchikāsaṇḍa, disparaged with contempt, scorned with contempt, Citta the householder, a faithful, confident giver, doer, supporter of the Saṅgha. In that matter, venerable sir, it was permitted. Therefore, monks, let the Saṅgha perform the act of reconciliation for the monk Sudhamma: "Citta the householder must be asked for forgiveness by you." Question – Where, friends, was it permitted by the Blessed One to give a messenger to a monk for whom the act of reconciliation had been performed, and to go with that messenger and ask forgiveness from the householder who was disparaged? Concerning whom, in what matter, was it permitted? Answer – In Sāvatthī, venerable sir, it was permitted concerning Venerable Sudhamma himself. Venerable Sudhamma, venerable sir, having gone to Macchikāsaṇḍa, became embarrassed and was unable to ask forgiveness from Citta the householder. In that matter, venerable sir, it was permitted. Question – For a monk, friends, for whom the act of reconciliation has been performed, in how many observances, behaving correctly, was it permitted by the Blessed One to revoke that act? Answer – In eighteen observances, venerable sir, behaving correctly, for a monk for whom the act of reconciliation has been performed, it was permitted by the Blessed One to revoke that act. Question – Where, friends, was it enjoined by the Blessed One to perform the act of suspension for a monk who, having committed an offense, does not wish to see that offense or to make amends for it, due to not seeing the offense or not making amends? Concerning whom, in what matter, was it enjoined? Explanation: It was laid down, venerable sir, concerning the Elder Channa in Kosambi. Venerable sir, the Elder Channa committed an offense and did not wish to see that offense or to make amends for it. It was laid down, venerable sir, concerning that matter. Question: Friend, for a bhikkhu who has been suspended for not seeing an offense or not making amends, in how many observances should he conduct himself properly? Answer: Venerable sir, he should conduct himself properly in forty-three observances. Question: Friend, where did the Blessed One permit the suspension of a bhikkhu who was conducting himself properly to be revoked? Concerning whom, and in what matter, was it permitted? Answer: Venerable sir, it was permitted concerning the Elder Channa himself in Kosambi. Venerable sir, the Elder Channa, who had been suspended by the Sangha for not seeing an offense or not making amends, conducted himself properly, he shed his hair, he conducted himself in accordance with the rule, he approached the Sangha and requested the revocation of that act. It was permitted, venerable sir, concerning that matter. Question: Friend, where did the Blessed One lay down that a bhikkhu who has adopted a wicked view and does not relinquish that view, should be suspended for not relinquishing a wicked view? Concerning whom, and in what matter, was it laid down? Answer: Venerable sir, it was laid down in Savatthi concerning the bhikkhu named Ariṭṭha, formerly a vulture-killer. Venerable sir, when the Blessed One was dwelling in Savatthi, such a wicked wrong view arose in a bhikkhu named Ariṭṭha, formerly a vulture-killer: "I understand the Dhamma taught by the Blessed One in such a way that those things declared by the Blessed One to be obstacles are not sufficient to be obstacles for one who indulges in them." It was laid down, venerable sir, concerning that matter. Question: Friend, for a bhikkhu who has been suspended for not relinquishing a wicked view, in how many observances should he conduct himself properly? Answer: Venerable sir, he should conduct himself properly in forty-three observances. ṃ. Question – I will ask about the chapter on acts, with its origin and explanation. Friend, how many offenses are there for the elevated terms? Answer – I will explain the chapter on acts, with its origin and explanation. Venerable sir, there is one offense for the elevated terms. 2. Chapter on Probation Question – Friend, where did the Blessed One lay down the dukkata offense for a monk on probation who accepts salutations and the like from ordinary monks? Concerning whom, and on what occasion was it laid down? Answer – Venerable sir, it was laid down in Sāvatthī concerning monks on probation. Venerable sir, monks on probation accepted salutations and the like from ordinary monks. Venerable sir, it was laid down on that occasion. Question – Friend, in how many observances should a monk on probation conduct himself properly? Answer – Venerable sir, a monk on probation should conduct himself properly in ninety-four observances. Question – I will ask about probation, with its origin and explanation. Friend, how many offenses are there for the elevated terms? Answer – I will explain about probation, with its origin and explanation. Venerable sir, there is one offense for the elevated terms. 3. Chapter on Accumulation Question – I will ask about accumulation, with its origin and explanation. Friend, how many offenses are there for the elevated terms? Answer – I will explain about accumulation, with its origin and explanation.