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is the obsession of wrong view abandoned because it will not arise? Yes. For the eighth person, the latent tendency of doubt... Is attachment to rites and rituals abandoned, having made (the thought) that it will not arise? It should not be said thus… For the eighth person, is the obsession of doubt abandoned, having made (the thought) that it will not arise? Yes. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of doubt… attachment to rites and rituals abandoned, having made (the thought) that it will not arise? It should not be said thus… For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view abandoned, having made (the thought) that it will not arise? Yes. For the lineage-changer person, is the obsession of wrong view abandoned, having made (the thought) that it will not arise? It should not be said thus… For the eighth person, is the obsession of doubt abandoned, having made (the thought) that it will not arise? Yes. For the lineage-changer person, is the obsession of doubt abandoned, having made (the thought) that it will not arise? It should not be said thus… The discourse on the eighth person is finished. 3. The Third Chapter (26) 6. The discourse on the faculties of the eighth person 371. For the eighth person, is there no faculty of faith? Yes. For the eighth person, is there no faith? It should not be said thus. For the eighth person, is there no faculty of energy… is there no faculty of mindfulness… is there no faculty of concentration… is there no faculty of wisdom? Yes. For the eighth person, is there no wisdom? It should not be said thus… For the eighth person, is there faith? Yes. For the eighth person, is there the faculty of faith? It should not be said thus… For the eighth person, is there energy… is there mindfulness… is there concentration… is there wisdom? Yes. For the eighth person, is there the faculty of wisdom? It should not be said thus… For the eighth person, is there mind, is there the faculty of mind? Yes. For the eighth person, is there faith, is there the faculty of faith? It should not be said thus… For the eighth person, is there mind, is there the faculty of mind? Yes. For the eighth person, is there wisdom, is there the faculty of wisdom? It should not be said thus… Thus it should be said... For the eighth person, is there joy? is there the faculty of joy? is there life? is there the faculty of life? Yes. For the eighth person, is there faith? is there the faculty of faith? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there life? is there the faculty of life? Yes. For the eighth person... is there wisdom? is there the faculty of wisdom? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there faith? is there not the faculty of faith? Yes. For the eighth person, is there mind? is there not the faculty of mind? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there faith? is there not the faculty of faith? Yes. For the eighth person, is there joy? is there not the faculty of joy? ... is there life? is there not the faculty of life? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there wisdom? is there not the faculty of wisdom? Yes. For the eighth person, is there mind? is there not the faculty of mind? Is there joy? is there not the faculty of joy? Is there life? is there not the faculty of life? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there not the faculty of faith? Yes. Is the eighth person faithless? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there not the faculty of energy? Yes. Is the eighth person lazy, of weak energy? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there not the faculty of mindfulness? Yes. Is the eighth person forgetful, without clear comprehension? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there not the faculty of concentration? Yes. Is the eighth person unconcentrated, with a scattered mind? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there not the faculty of wisdom? Yes. Is the eighth person unwise, dull-witted? It should not be said thus... For the eighth person, is there faith? And that faith is ni... leading to liberation? Yes. If the eighth person has faith, and that faith leads to liberation, indeed, it should not be said – "the eighth person has no faculty of faith." The eighth person has energy, and that energy leads to liberation; has mindfulness, and that mindfulness leads to liberation; has concentration, and that concentration leads to liberation; has wisdom, and that wisdom leads to liberation? Yes. If the eighth person has wisdom, and that wisdom leads to liberation, indeed, it should not be said – "the eighth person has no faculty of wisdom." 372. For the person practicing for the realization of the once-returner fruit, is there faith, is there the faculty of faith? Yes. For the eighth person, is there faith, is there the faculty of faith? It should not be said so... (and so on)... For the person practicing for the realization of the once-returner fruit, is there wisdom, is there the faculty of wisdom? Yes. For the eighth person, is there wisdom, is there the faculty of wisdom? It should not be said so... (and so on)... For the person practicing for the realization of the non-returner fruit... for the person practicing for the realization of arahantship, is there faith, is there the faculty of faith... (and so on)... is there wisdom, is there the faculty of wisdom? Yes. For the eighth person, is there wisdom, is there the faculty of wisdom? It should not be said so... (and so on)... For the eighth person, is there faith, but no faculty of faith? Yes. For the person practicing for the realization of the once-returner fruit, is there faith, but no faculty of faith? It should not be said so... (and so on)... For the eighth person, is there wisdom, but no faculty of wisdom? Yes. For the person practicing for the realization of the once-returner fruit, is there wisdom, but no faculty of wisdom? It should not be said so... (and so on)... For the eighth person, is there faith, but no faculty of faith... (and so on)... is there wisdom, but no faculty of wisdom? Yes. For a person practicing for the realization of the fruit of non-returning… for a person practicing for the realization of Arahantship, is there wisdom, is there no faculty of wisdom? It should not be said thus… Does the eighth person not have the faculties of wisdom? Yes. Has it not been said by the Blessed One – "There are these five faculties, monks! Which five? The faculty of faith, the faculty of energy, the faculty of mindfulness, the faculty of concentration, the faculty of wisdom – these, monks, are the five faculties. By the completion and fulfillment of these five faculties, monks, one becomes an Arahant. With faculties softer than that, one is practicing for the realization of Arahantship. With faculties softer than that, one is a non-returner. With faculties softer than that, one is practicing for the realization of the fruit of non-returning. With faculties softer than that, one is a once-returner. With faculties softer than that, one is practicing for the realization of the fruit of once-returning. With faculties softer than that, one is a stream-enterer. With faculties softer than that, one is practicing for the realization of the fruit of stream-entry. Whoever, monks, does not have these five faculties in any way, in any respect, in any manner, him I declare to be 'an outsider, standing on the side of ordinary people'." Is there such a Sutta? Yes. Is the eighth person an outsider, standing on the side of ordinary people? It should not be said thus… Therefore, the eighth person has the faculties of wisdom. The discourse on the faculties of the eighth person is concluded. 3. The Third Chapter (27) 7. Discourse on the Divine Eye 373. Does the physical eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Is the physical eye the divine eye, is the divine eye the physical eye? It should not be said thus… Does the physical eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Is the divine eye like the physical eye, is the physical eye like the divine eye? It should not be said thus… Does the physical eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Is that very physical eye that di... The divine eye, is that divine eye the fleshly eye? It should not be said so. Does the fleshly eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Is the range, power, and sphere of the fleshly eye the same as the range, power, and sphere of the divine eye? It should not be said so. Does the fleshly eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Does it become ungrasped after being grasped? It should not be said so. Does it become ungrasped after being grasped? Yes. Does it become of the form realm after being of the sense realm? It should not be said so. Does it become of the form realm after being of the sense realm? Yes. Does it become of the formless realm after being of the form realm? It should not be said so. Does it become of the formless realm after being of the form realm? Yes. Does it become unincluded after being included? It should not be said so. Does the fleshly eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Does the divine eye, supported by Dhamma, become the fleshly eye? It should not be said so. Does the fleshly eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Does the divine eye, supported by Dhamma, become the eye of wisdom? It should not be said so. Does the fleshly eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Does the divine eye, supported by Dhamma, become the fleshly eye? It should not be said so. Does the fleshly eye, supported by Dhamma, become the divine eye? Yes. Are there only two eyes? It should not be said so. Are there only two eyes? Yes. Indeed, were not three eyes spoken of by the Blessed One – the fleshly eye, the divine eye, the eye of wisdom? Yes.