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Is the mind accompanied by delusion, co-arisen with delusion, mingled with delusion, associated with delusion, co-existent with delusion, following delusion, unwholesome, worldly, with taints… defiling, liberated? It should not be said thus… The mind with contact is liberated. And contact and mind, both are liberated? Yes. The mind with delusion is liberated. And delusion and mind, both are liberated? It should not be said thus… With feeling… with perception… with volition… with wisdom, the mind is liberated. And wisdom and mind, both are liberated? Yes. The mind with delusion is liberated. And delusion and mind, both are liberated? It should not be said thus… The mind with contact, with delusion, is liberated. And contact and mind, both are liberated? Yes. And delusion and mind, both are liberated? It should not be said thus… With feeling, with delusion… with perception, with delusion… with volition, with delusion… with wisdom, with delusion, the mind is liberated. And wisdom and mind, both are liberated? Yes. And delusion and mind, both are liberated? It should not be said thus… Is the mind with greed, with hatred, with delusion, liberated? Yes. Is the mind free from greed, free from hatred, free from delusion, undefiled, liberated? It should not be said thus… Therefore, it should not be said – "with greed, with hatred, with… the mind is freed from delusion. The discourse on liberation is finished. 3. The Third Chapter (24) 4. Discourse on Becoming Liberated 366. Is it liberated, becoming liberated? Yes. Partially liberated, partially not liberated? It should not be said so... (etc.) Partially liberated, partially not liberated? Yes. Partially a stream-enterer, partially not a stream-enterer? Partially one who has attained, gained, realized, actualized the fruit of stream-entry, dwelling having entered it, dwelling having touched it with the body? Partially not dwelling having touched it with the body? Partially one who will be reborn at most seven times, a family-to-family attainer, a one-seeder? Endowed with unwavering faith in the Buddha, in the Dhamma... (etc.) in the Saṅgha... (etc.) Endowed with the virtues dear to the noble ones? Partially not endowed with the virtues dear to the noble ones? It should not be said so... (etc.) Partially liberated, partially not liberated? Yes. Partially a once-returner, partially not a once-returner? Partially one who has attained, gained, realized, actualized the fruit of once-returning, dwelling having entered it, dwelling having touched it with the body? Partially not dwelling having touched it with the body? It should not be said so... (etc.) Partially liberated, partially not liberated? Yes. Partially a non-returner, partially not a non-returner? Partially one who has attained, gained, realized, actualized the fruit of non-returning, dwelling having entered it, dwelling having touched it with the body? Partially not dwelling having touched it with the body? Partially one who attains final Nibbāna in the interim, one who attains final Nibbāna upon impact, one who attains final Nibbāna without exertion, one who attains final Nibbāna with exertion, one who goes upstream to the Akaniṭṭha realm? Partially not one who goes upstream to the Akaniṭṭha realm? It should not be said so... (etc.) Partially liberated, partially not liberated? Yes. Partially an Arahant, partially not an Arahant? Partially one who has attained, gained, realized, actualized Arahantship, dwelling having entered it, dwelling having touched it with the body? Partially not dwelling having touched it with the body? Partially one who is free from passion, free from hatred, free from delusion... (etc.) partially to be realized, realized, and one part to be realized, not realized? It should not be said thus…pe…. Is it liberated and being liberated? Yes. Is it liberated at the moment of arising, and being liberated at the moment of dissolution? It should not be said thus…pe…. 367. Should it not be said – “liberated and being liberated”? Yes. Has it not been said by the Blessed One – “For him who thus knows, thus sees, his mind is liberated from the defilement of sensuality, his mind is liberated from the defilement of existence, his mind is liberated from the defilement of ignorance”? Is there such a discourse? Yes. Then it should be said – “liberated and being liberated.” Is it liberated and being liberated? Yes. Has it not been said by the Blessed One – “He, with his mind thus concentrated, purified, cleansed, unblemished, rid of defilements, malleable, workable, steady, attained to imperturbability, inclines his mind to the knowledge of the destruction of the defilements”? Is there such a discourse? Yes. Then it should not be said – “liberated and being liberated.” Is there a mind being liberated? Yes. Is there a mind being attached, being averse, being deluded, being defiled? It should not be said thus…pe… Is it not both attached and unattached, both averse and unaverse, both deluded and undeluded, both cut off and uncut, both broken and unbroken, both done and undone? Yes. If it is both attached and unattached, both averse and unaverse, both deluded and undeluded, both cut off and uncut, both broken and unbroken, both done and undone, then indeed it should not be said – “there is a mind being liberated.” The discourse on being liberated is finished. 3. The Third Chapter (25) 5. The Discourse on the Eighth Person 368. Is the Eighth Person’s obsession with views abandoned? Yes. Does the Eighth Person, having attained the fruit of stream-entry, having acquired, gained, realized, and entered upon it, dwell touching it with the body? Is it? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the obsession of doubt abandoned? Yes. Is the eighth person a stream-enterer, one who has attained the fruit of stream-entry...etc... dwelling having touched it with the body? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of wrong view abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of doubt... the clinging to rules and observances abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the obsession of doubt abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of doubt abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the obsession of doubt abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of wrong view... the clinging to rules and observances abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of wrong view not abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view not abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of wrong view not abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the obsession of doubt not abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of doubt... the clinging to rules and observances not abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view not abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the clinging to rules and observances not abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the obsession of doubt not abandoned? It should not be said so...etc. 369. For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, is the path for the abandoning of the obsession of wrong view developed? It should not be said so...etc. For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view abandoned? Yes. For the eighth For that person, for the abandoning of the obsession of wrong view, have the foundations of mindfulness been developed, ... (and so on) the right efforts, ... (and so on) the factors of awakening been developed? It should not be said thus. For the eighth person, has the obsession of doubt been abandoned? Yes. For the eighth person, for the abandoning of the obsession of doubt, has the path been developed, ... (and so on) the factors of awakening been developed? It should not be said thus... (and so on). For the eighth person, for the abandoning of the obsession of wrong view, has the path not been developed? Yes. Is it abandoned by a non-path, by the worldly, with defilements, ... (and so on) by that which leads to defilement? It should not be said thus... (and so on). For the eighth person, for the abandoning of the obsession of wrong view, have the foundations of mindfulness, ... (and so on) the factors of awakening not been developed? Yes. Is it abandoned by a non-path, by the worldly, with defilements, ... (and so on) by that which leads to defilement? It should not be said thus... (and so on). For the eighth person, for the abandoning of the obsession of doubt, has the path not been developed, ... (and so on) the foundations of mindfulness, ... (and so on) the factors of awakening not been developed? Yes. Is it abandoned by a non-path, by the worldly, with defilements, ... (and so on) by that which leads to defilement? It should not be said thus... (and so on). 370. Should it not be said: "For the eighth person, the obsession of wrong view is abandoned"? Yes. Will it arise? It will not arise. If it will not arise, then indeed it should be said: "For the eighth person, the obsession of wrong view is abandoned." Should it not be said: "For the eighth person, the obsession of doubt is abandoned"? Yes. Will it arise? It will not arise. If it will not arise, then indeed it should be said: "For the eighth person, the obsession of doubt is abandoned." For the eighth person, is the obsession of wrong view abandoned because it will not arise? Yes. For the eighth person, is the latent tendency of wrong view abandoned because it will not arise? It should not be said thus... (and so on). For the eighth person,