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Is human happiness found? Is a feeler of human happiness found? Yes. Is human happiness one thing, and the feeler of human happiness another? It should not be said thus…pe…. 157. Is suffering in the lower realms found? Yes. Is a feeler of suffering in the lower realms found? It should not be said thus…pe…. 158. Is suffering in the lower realms found? Is a feeler of suffering in the lower realms found? Yes. Is a feeler of that found? It should not be said thus…pe…. 159. Is a feeler of that found? Yes. For that very one there is no ending of suffering, there is no cutting off of the cycle, there is no Nibbana without clinging? It should not be said thus…pe…. 160. Is suffering in the lower realms found? Is a feeler of suffering in the lower realms found? Yes. Is a person found? Is a feeler of a person Is a feeler found? It should not be said so... 161. Is suffering in the lower realms found? Is a feeler of suffering in the lower realms found? Yes. Is Nibbāna found? Is a feeler of Nibbāna found? It should not be said so... 162. Is suffering in the lower realms found? Is a feeler of suffering in the lower realms found? Yes. Is the great earth found?... Is the great ocean found?... Is the king of mountains, Sineru, found?... Is water found?... Is fire found?... Is wind found?... Are grasses, sticks, and plants found? Is a feeler of grasses, sticks, and plants found? It should not be said so... 163. Is suffering in the lower realms found? Is a feeler of suffering in the lower realms found? Yes. Is suffering in the lower realms one thing, and the feeler of suffering in the lower realms another? It should not be said so... 164. Is suffering in hell found? Yes. Is a feeler of suffering in hell found? It should not be said so. Is suffering in hell found? Is a feeler of suffering in hell found? Yes. Is a feeler of that found? It should not be said so... 165. Is a feeler of that found? Yes. For that very one, is there no end to suffering, no cutting off of the cycle, no ungrasped Nibbāna? It should not be said so... 166. Is suffering in hell found? Is a feeler of suffering in hell found? Yes. Is a person found? Is a feeler of a person found? It should not be said so... 167. Is suffering in hell found? Is a feeler of suffering in hell found? Yes. Is Nibbāna found? Is a feeler of Nibbāna found? It should not be said so... 168. Is suffering in hell found? Is a feeler of suffering in hell... Is there one who experiences suffering? Yes. Is the great earth found? ... Is the great ocean found? Is Sineru, king of mountains, found? Is water found? Is fire found? Is wind found? Are grasses, sticks, and forest trees found? Is there one who experiences grasses, sticks, and forest trees? It should not be said so. ... 169. Is hellish suffering found? Is there one who experiences hellish suffering? Yes. Is hellish suffering one thing, and the experiencer of hellish suffering another? It should not be said so. ... 170. Are good and bad deeds found? Is there a doer, an instigator, an experiencer of the results of good and bad deeds? Yes. Does he do it, and he experience it? It should not be said so. ... 171. Does he do it, and he experience it? Yes. Is suffering and happiness self-made? It should not be said so. ... 172. Are good and bad deeds found? Is there a doer, an instigator, an experiencer of the results of good and bad deeds? Yes. Does one do it, and another experience it? It should not be said so. ... 173. Does one do it, and another experience it? Yes. Is suffering and happiness made by another? It should not be said so. ... 174. Are good and bad deeds found? Is there a doer, an instigator, an experiencer of the results of good and bad deeds? Yes. Do both he and another do it, and both he and another experience it? It should not be said so. ... 175. Do both he and another do it, and both he and another experience it? Yes. Is suffering and happiness both self-made and made by another? It should not be said so. ... 176. Are good and bad deeds found? Is there a doer, an instigator, an experiencer of the results of good and bad deeds? Yes. Does neither he do it nor he experience it, nor does another do it nor another experience it? It should not be said so. 177. Neither does he do it nor does he experience it, nor does another do it nor does another experience it? Yes. Is suffering and happiness not self-made, not made by another, arising by chance? It should not be said thus… 178. Are good and bad deeds found? Is a doer, an instigator, an experiencer of the result of good and bad deeds found? Yes. Does he do it and he experience it? Does another do it and another experience it? Do he and another do it and he and another experience it? Neither does he do it nor does he experience it, nor does another do it nor does another experience it? It should not be said thus… 179. Does he do it and he experience it? Does another do it and another experience it? Do he and another do it and he and another experience it? Neither does he do it nor does he experience it, nor does another do it nor does another experience it? Yes. Is suffering and happiness self-made? Is suffering and happiness made by another? Is suffering and happiness both self-made and made by another? Is suffering and happiness not self-made, not made by another, arising by chance? It should not be said thus… 180. Is there kamma? Yes. Is there a doer of kamma? It should not be said thus… 181. Is there kamma? Is there a doer of kamma? Yes. Is there a doer of that? It should not be said thus… 182. Is there a doer of that? Yes. For that very one, is there no end to suffering? Is there no cutting off of the cycle? Is there no Nibbāna without clinging? It should not be said thus… 183. Is there kamma? Is there a doer of kamma? Yes. Is there a person? Is there a doer of the person? It should not be said thus… 184. Is there kamma? Is there a doer of kamma? Yes. Is there Nibbāna? Is there a doer of Nibbāna? It should not be said thus… 185. Is there kamma? Is there a doer of kamma? Yes. Is there the great earth? … Is there the great ocean? … Is there the king of mountains, Sineru? … Is there water? … Is there fire? ...earth exists? ...wind exists? Do grasses, sticks, and forest trees exist? Does a maker of grasses, sticks, and forest trees exist? It should not be said thus... (etc.) 186. Does action exist? Does an agent of action exist? Yes. Is action one thing, and the agent of action another? It should not be said thus... (etc.) 187. Does result exist? Yes. Does one who experiences the result exist? It should not be said thus... (etc.) 188. Does result exist? Does one who experiences the result exist? Yes. Does one who experiences that exist? It should not be said thus... (etc.) 189. Does one who experiences that exist? Yes. For that very one, is there no ending of suffering, is there no cutting off of the cycle, is there no ungrasped Nibbāna? It should not be said thus... (etc.) Does result exist? Does one who experiences the result exist? Yes. Does a person exist? Does one who experiences the person exist? It should not be said thus... (etc.) 190. Does result exist? Does one who experiences the result exist? Yes. Does Nibbāna exist? Does one who experiences Nibbāna exist? It should not be said thus... (etc.) 191. Does result exist? Does one who experiences the result exist? Yes. Does the great earth exist? (etc.) Does the great ocean exist? Does Mount Sineru, king of mountains, exist? Do water (elements) exist? Do fire (elements) exist? Do wind (elements) exist? Do grasses, sticks, and forest trees exist? Does one who experiences grasses, sticks, and forest trees exist? It should not be said thus... (etc.) 192. Does result exist? Does one who experiences the result exist? Yes. Is result one thing, and the experiencer of result another? It should not be said thus. (Abbreviated) Inquiry into the Agent. The First Chapter on the Auspicious. 14. Inquiry into Higher Knowledge 193. Should it not be said: "A person is apprehended in the sense of ultimate reality"? Yes. But is there not someone who performs psychic powers? Yes. If there is someone who performs psychic powers, then surely it should be said: "A person is apprehended in the sense of ultimate reality." 194. Should it not be said: "A person is apprehended in the sense of ultimate reality"? Yes. But is there not Does anyone hear a sound with the divine ear element...? know the minds of others...? recollect past lives...? see forms with the divine eye...? realize the destruction of the taints? Yes. If someone realizes the destruction of the taints, then indeed it should be said: "A person is apprehended in the sense of an ultimate reality." 195. Is it by saying that someone performs psychic powers that for that reason a person is apprehended in the sense of an ultimate reality? Yes. Is he who performs psychic powers, he alone a person? Is he who does not perform psychic powers, not a person? It should not be said thus... 196. He who hears a sound with the divine ear element... he who knows the minds of others... he who recollects past lives... he who sees forms with the divine eye... he who realizes the destruction of the taints, is he alone a person? He who does not realize the destruction of the taints, is he not a person? It should not be said thus... The Application of Supernormal Knowledge. 15-18. The Application of Relatives, etc. 197. Should it not be said: "A person is apprehended in the sense of an ultimate reality"? Yes. Is there not a mother? Yes. If there is a mother, then indeed it should be said: "A person is apprehended in the sense of an ultimate reality." 198. Should it not be said: "A person is apprehended in the sense of an ultimate reality"? Yes. Is there not a father...? a brother...? a sister...? a noble...? a brahmin...? a merchant...? a worker...? a householder...? a renunciant...? a deity...? a human being? Yes. If there is a human being,