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the recluse Gotama is seated for a day's rest in the venerable one's park. When this was said, Bhaggava, the naked ascetic Pāthikaputta, saying ‘I am coming, friend, I am coming, friend,’ just squirmed there, unable to rise from his seat. Then, Bhaggava, that man said to the naked ascetic Pāthikaputta – ‘What is it, friend Pāthikaputta, are your legs stuck to the stool, or is the stool stuck to your legs? You say ‘I am coming, friend, I am coming, friend,’ but you just squirm there, unable to rise from your seat.’ Even when this was said, Bhaggava, the naked ascetic Pāthikaputta, saying ‘I am coming, friend, I am coming, friend,’ just squirmed there, unable to rise from his seat. 23. When, Bhaggava, that man understood – ‘This naked ascetic Pāthikaputta is utterly defeated. He says ‘I am coming, friend, I am coming, friend,’ but just squirms there, unable to rise from his seat.’ Then, having come to that assembly, he reported thus – ‘Friends, this naked ascetic Pāthikaputta is utterly defeated. He says ‘I am coming, friend, I am coming, friend,’ but just squirms there, unable to rise from his seat.’ When this was said, I, Bhaggava, said to that assembly – ‘Indeed, friend, the naked ascetic Pāthikaputta is incapable of coming into my presence without abandoning that speech, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view. Even if he were to think – ‘I will go into the presence of the recluse Gotama without abandoning that speech, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view,’ his head would split into seven pieces.’ The chapter is concluded. 24. “Then, Bhaggava, a certain Licchavi chief minister rose from his seat and said to that assembly: ‘Well then, sirs, wait a moment, while I go [and return?]. Perhaps I too might be able to bring the naked Pāthikaputta to this assembly.’ “Then, Bhaggava, that Licchavi chief minister approached the Tindukakhāṇa wanderers’ park, where the naked Pāthikaputta was. Having approached, he said to the naked Pāthikaputta: ‘Come, friend Pāthikaputta, your coming is better, the well-known, well-known Licchavis have come, the well-known, well-known great Brahmin householders and lay followers, and various sectarian ascetics and brahmins have come. Even the ascetic Gotama is seated for a day-rest in your park. And this statement was made by you, friend Pāthikaputta, in the assembly in Vesālī: “Even the ascetic Gotama is a speaker of knowledge… (as before)… I will do double that, double that.” Just come, friend Pāthikaputta, halfway. The ascetic Gotama came first of all and is seated for a day-rest in your park. And this statement was made by the ascetic Gotama, friend Pāthikaputta, in the assembly: “It is impossible for the naked Pāthikaputta, without abandoning that statement, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view, to come into my presence. If he were to think: ‘I will go into the presence of the ascetic Gotama without abandoning that statement, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view,’ his head would split open.” Come, friend Pāthikaputta, by your coming alone we will achieve victory, and the ascetic Gotama’s defeat.’ “When this was said, Bhaggava, the naked Pāthikaputta, saying ‘I am coming, friend, I am coming, friend,’ just crawled there, unable even to rise from his seat. Then, Bhaggava, that Licchavi chief minister, seeing the naked Pāthikaputta…” said – ‘What, friend Pāthikaputta, are your ribs stuck to the stool, or is the stool stuck to your ribs? Saying, “I’m coming, friend, I’m coming, friend,” you just crawl there, you cannot even rise from your seat.’ Even when spoken to thus, Bhaggava, the naked Pāthikaputta, saying, “I’m coming, friend, I’m coming, friend,” just crawls there, he cannot even rise from his seat. 25. ‘‘When that Licchavi minister, Bhaggava, understood: ‘This naked Pāthikaputta is defeated; saying, “I’m coming, friend, I’m coming, friend,” he just crawls there, he cannot even rise from his seat.’ Then he went to that assembly and announced thus: ‘Friends, this naked Pāthikaputta is defeated; saying, “I’m coming, friend, I’m coming, friend,” he just crawls there, he cannot even rise from his seat.’ When this was said, Bhaggava, I spoke to that assembly thus: ‘It is impossible, friends, for the naked Pāthikaputta to come into my presence without abandoning that speech, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view. Even if he were to think: “I will go into the presence of the recluse Gotama without abandoning that speech, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view,” his head would split into pieces. Even if the venerable Licchavis were to think: “We will bind the naked Pāthikaputta with straps and drag him with yokes of oxen,” those straps would break, or Pāthikaputta would. But it is impossible for the naked Pāthikaputta to come into my presence without abandoning that speech, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view. Even if he were to think: “I will go into the presence of the recluse Gotama without abandoning that speech, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view,” he would go, his head would split open.’ 26. “Then, Bhaggava, Jāliya, the disciple of Dārupattika, rose from his seat and said to that assembly: ‘Well then, sirs, wait a moment, while I go; perhaps I too might be able to bring the naked Pāthikaputta to this assembly.’ “Then, Bhaggava, Jāliya, the disciple of Dārupattika, approached the hermitage of the Tindukakhāṇa wanderers, where the naked Pāthikaputta was. Having approached, he said to the naked Pāthikaputta: ‘Come, friend Pāthikaputta, it is better for you to come. The well-known, distinguished Licchavis have come, the well-known, distinguished great Brahmin householders, lay followers, and ascetics and brahmins of various sects have come. Even the ascetic Gotama is sitting in your hermitage for a day-rest. And this statement was made by you, friend Pāthikaputta, in the assembly in Vesālī: “Even the ascetic Gotama is a speaker of knowledge… I will make it twice as much, twice as much.” Just come, friend Pāthikaputta, halfway. First of all, the ascetic Gotama came and is sitting in your hermitage for a day-rest. And this statement was made by the ascetic Gotama in the assembly, friend Pāthikaputta: “It is impossible for the naked Pāthikaputta to come into my presence without abandoning that statement, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view. If he were to think: ‘I will go into the presence of the ascetic Gotama without abandoning that statement, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view,’ his head would split open. If the Licchavis, your venerable sirs, were to think: ‘We will bind the naked Pāthikaputta with ropes and drag him with ox-yokes,’ those ropes would break, or Pāthikaputta would. But it is impossible for the naked Pāthikaputta to come into my presence without abandoning that statement, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view. If It would be thus for him: "I, without abandoning that speech, without abandoning that thought, without relinquishing that view, would come into the presence of the recluse Gotama." His head would split open. "Come forth, friend Pāthikaputta, by coming forth, we shall make your victory, and the recluse Gotama's defeat." When this was said, Bhaggava, the naked ascetic Pāthikaputta, saying, "I come, friend, I come, friend," just squirmed there, unable to rise from his seat. Then, Bhaggava, Jāliya, the disciple of Dārupattika, said to the naked ascetic Pāthikaputta: "What is it, friend Pāthikaputta? Are your groins stuck to the seat, or is the seat stuck to your groins? You say, 'I come, friend, I come, friend,' but you just squirm there, unable to rise from your seat." Even when this was said, Bhaggava, the naked ascetic Pāthikaputta, saying, "I come, friend, I come, friend," just squirmed there, unable to rise from his seat. When, Bhaggava, Jāliya, the disciple of Dārupattika, understood: "This naked ascetic Pāthikaputta is utterly defeated; saying, 'I come, friend, I come, friend,' he just squirms there, unable to rise from his seat," then he said to him: "Formerly, friend Pāthikaputta, it occurred to the lion, king of beasts: 'What if I were to make my lair in a certain forest thicket? Having made my lair there, at evening time, I would emerge from the lair. Having emerged from the lair, I would stretch. Having stretched, I would survey all four directions. Having surveyed all four directions, I would roar the lion's roar three times. Having roared the lion's roar three times, I would go forth to graze. He would kill the best of the herds of deer, again and again. He would eat the tenderest of meats, and then return to that very lair.'" "Then, friend, that lion, king of beasts, made his lair in a certain forest thicket..." He made his lair there. In the evening, he emerged from his lair. Having emerged from his lair, he stretched. Having stretched, he surveyed all four directions. Having surveyed all four directions, he roared the lion's roar three times. Having roared the lion's roar three times, he went out to hunt. He, having repeatedly killed herds of deer, having eaten soft, soft flesh, returned to that same lair. 28. 'Indeed, friend Pāthikaputta, a decrepit jackal, nourished by the leavings of that lion, the king of beasts, became plump and strong. Then, friend, it occurred to that decrepit jackal: "Who am I? Who is the lion, the king of beasts? What if I too were to make a lair, relying on some thicket? Having made a lair there, I would emerge from my lair in the evening. Having emerged from my lair, I would stretch. Having stretched, I would survey all four directions. Having surveyed all four directions, I would roar the lion's roar three times. Having roared the lion's roar three times, I would go out to hunt.