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t24n1449 fundamental sarvastivada vinaya kathina robe matter.g2.0f

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English

English version: ‘If the clothes obtained can be made into a Kathina-cīvara (a special robe), can they?’ The Buddha said, ‘Yes.’ If there are many other clothes that are either in accordance with or not in accordance with the rules, it should be understood according to the meaning above. Regarding the characteristics of giving out the Kathina-cīvara, there are originally eight types. What are the eight? A verse summarizes them: Initially deciding to leave uncertainly, deciding to lose the robe, Hearing of leaving the boundary with doubt, hope is cut off with unanimous departure. What is called ‘deciding to leave and losing’? If there are bhikkhus (Buddhist monks), together in one place receiving the Kathina-cīvara. Having finished making the robe, without any attachment to this place, they then take their robes and bowls, wanting to go to another place, going beyond the boundary and not intending to return, resolutely leaving, this is called ‘deciding to leave and losing.’ What is called ‘uncertain loss’? If there are bhikkhus, together in one place receiving the Kathina-cīvara, not yet having made the robe, they then go beyond the boundary to seek robes, either not having made the robe, or having made half of it, regarding the benefits and dwelling place here, either having attachment, or not having attachment, either having hope, or not having hope, still intending to return to make the robe, or having doubts, this is called ‘uncertain loss.’ What is called ‘decided loss’? If there are bhikkhus, together in one place receiving the Kathina-cīvara, not yet having made the robe, they then go beyond the boundary to seek robes, thinking like this: ‘I will return to continue making the robe.’ Again thinking: ‘I am leaving today, and will not return again, nor will I be able to make the cīvara (robe).’ This is called ‘decided loss.’ What is called ‘losing loss’? If there are bhikkhus, together in one place receiving the Kathina-cīvara, not yet having made the robe, they then go beyond the boundary to make the cīvara, beginning to make the robe, and then losing that robe, this is called ‘losing loss.’ What is called ‘hearing of loss’? If there are bhikkhus, together in one place receiving the Kathina-cīvara, not yet having made the robe, they then go beyond the boundary to seek robes, thinking: ‘Returning, I will continue to make the robe.’ After leaving, the assembly then completes the giving out of the Kathina-cīvara. Hearing the news of the giving out of the Kathina-cīvara, they rejoice in their hearts: ‘Excellent, the robe is given out.’ This is called ‘hearing of loss.’ What is called ‘leaving the boundary with doubt and loss’? If there are bhikkhus, together in one place receiving the Kathina-cīvara. Not yet having made the robe, the bhikkhu thinks to himself: ‘Leaving the boundary to make the cīvara’ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chinese

罗。若了、若不了,或还、不还。”生如是心,出界便失。   云何望断失?如有苾刍,同在一处受羯耻那衣作衣,作衣未竟,出界求觅,拟还作衣。既至彼方,求衣不得,望心断绝,是名望断失。   云何同心出?如有苾刍,同在一处受羯耻那衣作衣,出界外求衣,后还来住处,共众作白二法出衣,是名同心出。   根本说一切有部毗奈耶羯耻那衣事一卷 现代汉语译本 ‘罗。若了、若不了,或还、不还。’如果产生这样的想法,超出结界就丧失了资格。 什么是‘望断失’呢?例如有比丘,一同在一处接受割制衣(Kathina-衣,指雨季安居结束后僧侣们接受的新衣)并制作,制作未完成,就出界去寻找,打算回来继续制作。到达那个地方后,寻找衣服没有结果,希望之心断绝,这叫做‘望断失’。 什么是‘同心出’呢?例如有比丘,一同在一处接受割制衣并制作,出界外去寻找衣服,之后返回住处,共同与大众一起通过白二羯磨(一种佛教仪式)舍弃割制衣,这叫做‘同心出’。 《根本说一切有部毗奈耶羯耻那衣事》一卷

English

English version ‘Whether it is finished or not, or whether it will be returned or not.’ If such a thought arises, one loses the qualification upon leaving the boundary. What is ‘loss due to abandoned hope’? For example, if there are Bhikshus (monks), together in one place receiving Kathina (Kathina - robe, referring to the new robes received by monks after the rainy season retreat) and making robes, and before the making is completed, they leave the boundary to seek materials, intending to return and continue making the robes. Having arrived at that place, they are unable to find the materials, and the hope is abandoned, this is called ‘loss due to abandoned hope.’ What is ‘abandonment with shared intention’? For example, if there are Bhikshus, together in one place receiving Kathina and making robes, and they leave the boundary to seek materials, and afterwards return to the dwelling place, and together with the Sangha (community) abandon the Kathina through a Karma (a type of Buddhist ceremony) of declaration and formal act, this is called ‘abandonment with shared intention.’ The first volume of the Mūlasarvāstivāda Vinaya Kathina-vastu --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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