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t23n1444 fundamental sarvastivada vinaya ordination matter.g2.0f

English

English version: 'Ayasma (Reverend)! The question you are asking now is not the right time; if the Sangha (community) gathers, you can ask about this matter, and it will be explained to you then.' Later, at another time, the Bhikkhu (monk) Sangha gathered. Among the assembly, a young novice asked: 'Bhante (Venerable)! What was the matter before that made everyone happy and laugh? Was it because they saw Upadhyaya (preceptor) die and were happy and laughing because they could become Thera (elder)?' At that time, the leader of the assembly explained to the Sangha in detail as described above. At that time, all the disciples were very happy and praised: 'The Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha are truly a great victory; our Upadhyaya committed such evil deeds and was able to be reborn in the heavens.' The sin of killing one's father is similar to this, and the sin of rebellion is explained in detail as before. At that time, the Buddha was in Jetavana (Jetavana Grove) in Sravasti (Sravasti) preaching to King Pasenadi (King Pasenadi of Kosala). After King Pasenadi realized the truth, eighty thousand devas (devas, gods) simultaneously attained realization, along with countless hundreds of thousands of Brahmins (Brahmins), and householders. At that time, King Pasenadi beat the drum and proclaimed: 'Those who live within my kingdom should not steal. If anyone commits theft, they shall be sentenced to death. Those who are robbed, I will personally provide goods to compensate for their losses.' At that time, the World Honored One (Buddha) again spoke the Kumara Sutta (Discourse to a Young Man) to subdue the king, and the king again beat the drum and proclaimed: 'No one shall steal within my kingdom. If anyone commits theft, they shall be sentenced to death. The families whose goods are stolen, I will repay with goods from the treasury.' At that time, there were thieves from Magadha (Magadha) who came to the border between the two countries of Kosala (Kosala), and merchants traveling back and forth were robbed of their goods. At that time, the merchants of Magadha went together to Kosala and said to each other: 'There are many robbers in the border area between these two countries, and they also demand many taxes.' At that time, most of the merchants returned together, and only a few continued to move forward. When they reached the middle of the road, a group of thieves rushed out and quickly robbed them of their goods. Some of the merchants were killed, and some abandoned their property and fled. Among the merchants, there was an Arhat (Arhat, enlightened one) who, after seeing this incident, pondered it carefully and unknowingly had his life taken by the thieves. The merchants scattered and fled, and those who escaped smeared mud on their bodies, wailed, and went to King Pasenadi, clasped their hands together, and reported to the king: 'We were trading within the kingdom and have now been robbed by thieves.' At that time --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chinese

王问曰:“在何方所?”白言:“于某方所。”其王命大将名毗楼卢泽迦楼赖吒,令速往彼捉贼将来。大臣依命,将四种兵往捉。时诸贼等在丛林中,无畏而住不着衣甲,正分所得财物。毗楼卢泽迦楼赖吒令其四兵围贼,四面一时击鼓吹螺。其贼惊怕,弃物而走,或有被杀、或有捉获。时大将军得所劫之物并获贼等,同诣王所,白大王曰:“此等是贼并物,今已捉获。”王告贼曰:“我先击鼓宣令:‘于我国中不得行盗。若有犯者,当害其命。被劫之家,我库藏中出物酬直。’”贼白王曰:“我亦闻王击鼓宣令;为贪财物,违命去盗。”王曰:“汝等劫人,何故害命?”白言:“为欲令前人恐怕故。”王告言:“汝等令他恐怕;我今与汝未曾见事,遣汝恐怕。”王敕大臣:“将此贼杀断。”其臣领贼,于四衢道告众人曰:“此是劫贼,欲将杀去。”将行之时,一贼逃走得脱,往逝多林,至一苾刍所白言:“圣者!我欲出家。”时彼苾刍即与出家及以近圆。诸余贼等,并被王杀。后于异时,诸苾刍等往尸林处。贼出家者亦来林间,见王杀贼,眼中泪出。余苾刍见,各相谓曰:“此初出家苾刍极有信心,见斯死者眼中流泪。”见苾刍赞,便即放声号啕大哭。苾刍问曰:“何故高声大哭?”答曰:“此是我父,此是我兄及以 现代汉语译本 国王问道:‘他们在什么地方?’回答说:‘在某个地方。’国王命令一位名叫毗楼卢泽迦楼赖吒(Virulhaka-raudra,大将名)的大将,命令他迅速前去捉拿盗贼。大臣遵照命令,带领四种军队前去捉拿。当时,盗贼们在丛林中,无所畏惧地住着,没有穿戴盔甲,正在瓜分抢来的财物。毗楼卢泽迦楼赖吒命令他的四种军队包围盗贼,四面同时击鼓吹螺。盗贼们惊慌害怕,丢弃财物逃跑,有的被杀,有的被捉获。当时,大将军得到抢劫来的财物,并捉获盗贼,一同前往国王那里,禀告大王说:‘这些人是盗贼和赃物,现在已经捉拿归案。’国王告诉盗贼们说:‘我先前击鼓宣告:’在我国中不得进行盗窃。如果有人违反,将处以死刑。被抢劫的家庭,我从国库中拿出财物进行补偿。‘’盗贼禀告国王说:‘我们也听到国王击鼓宣告;因为贪图财物,违背命令去盗窃。’国王说:‘你们抢劫别人,为什么还要杀人?’回答说:‘为了让前面的人感到害怕。’国王告诫说:‘你们让别人感到害怕;我现在给你们一件你们从未见过的事情,让你们感到害怕。’国王命令大臣:‘将这些盗贼处死。’大臣带领盗贼,在四通八达的道路上告诉众人说:‘这些人是强盗,要被处死了。’在行刑的时候,一个盗贼逃脱了,前往逝多林(Jetavana,祇园精舍),到一位比丘(bhiksu,出家人)那里说:‘圣者!我想要出家。’当时那位比丘就给他剃度出家,并授予具足戒。其余的盗贼,都被国王处死了。后来在其他时候,众比丘前往尸林(坟场)。那个出家的盗贼也来到林间,看见国王杀贼,眼中流出眼泪。其他比丘看见,互相说道:‘这位刚出家的比丘非常有信心,看见死者眼中流泪。’被看见的比丘赞叹,便放声大哭。比丘问道:‘为什么高声大哭?’回答说:‘这是我的父亲,这是我的哥哥以及’

English

English version The king asked: 'Where are they located?' He replied: 'In a certain place.' The king commanded a great general named Virulhaka-raudra (name of a general), ordering him to quickly go and capture the thieves. The minister, following the command, led four types of troops to capture them. At that time, the thieves were in the jungle, dwelling fearlessly without wearing armor, and were dividing the stolen goods. Virulhaka-raudra ordered his four types of troops to surround the thieves, and they simultaneously beat drums and blew conches on all four sides. The thieves were startled and frightened, abandoning the goods and fleeing; some were killed, and some were captured. At that time, the great general obtained the stolen goods and captured the thieves, and together they went to the king, reporting to the great king: 'These are the thieves and the stolen goods, and they have now been apprehended.' The king told the thieves: 'I previously beat the drum and proclaimed: 'In my kingdom, no one is allowed to commit theft. If anyone violates this, they will be put to death. The robbed families will be compensated with goods from my treasury.'' The thieves reported to the king: 'We also heard the king beat the drum and proclaim; because of greed for wealth, we disobeyed the order and went to steal.' The king said: 'You rob people, why do you also kill them?' They replied: 'In order to make the people ahead afraid.' The king admonished them: 'You make others afraid; now I will give you something you have never seen before, to make you afraid.' The king ordered the minister: 'Have these thieves executed.' The minister led the thieves, and in the crossroads, he told the crowd: 'These are robbers, and they are about to be executed.' As they were proceeding, one thief escaped and fled to Jetavana (Grdens of Jeta), where he went to a bhiksu (monk) and said: 'Venerable one! I wish to become a monk.' At that time, that bhiksu immediately ordained him and gave him the full precepts. The remaining thieves were all executed by the king. Later, at another time, the bhiksus went to the charnel ground (cemetery). The thief who had become a monk also came to the forest and saw the king killing the thieves, and tears flowed from his eyes. The other bhiksus saw this and said to each other: 'This newly ordained bhiksu has great faith, seeing the dead and shedding tears.' The bhiksu who was seen being praised then burst into loud wails. The bhiksu asked: 'Why are you crying so loudly?' He replied: 'This is my father, this is my brother, and' --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chinese

弟等。”又问:“此之贼等曾杀罗汉。汝岂杀耶?”答曰:“曾杀。”时诸苾刍以缘白佛。佛言:“若杀阿罗汉者,是断福田犯逆,亦坏我法,应须灭摈,驱令归俗。汝等苾刍!若有人来求出家者,苾刍应问:‘汝不杀阿罗汉不?’若不问者,得越法罪。”   具寿邬波离白佛言:“若复有人,先曾出家,破坏僧伽,于后更来求出家者,应与出家不?”佛言:“不应。”佛告邬波离:“从今已去,若有人来欲出家者,苾刍应问:‘汝曾破僧伽不?’若非,应度。若不问者,得越法罪。”   又白佛言:“若复有人,于佛世尊起恶逆心出佛身血。其人志求于佛法僧,心乐出家修持梵行者。有如是者,应与度不?”佛言:“不应。若有人来求出家者,苾刍应问:‘汝非恶心出佛身血不?’若非,应度。若不问者,得越法罪。”   又白佛言:“若复有人,先曾出家,于四波罗市迦法中随犯其一,便即归俗。复于善法,心乐出家。应度以不?”佛言:“不应。若有人来求出家者,苾刍应问:‘汝曾犯四重不?’若不问者,得越法罪。”   佛在室罗筏城逝多林给孤独园。佛告诸苾刍:“若有苾刍作不见举,因即归俗。还来出家及受近圆,受近圆已还造诸罪,不肯发露、我不见罪。若如是者,僧伽应与灭摈。 现代汉语译本: ‘弟子们。’又问:‘这些盗贼曾经杀害阿罗汉(Arhat,已证悟的人)。你们杀过吗?’回答说:‘杀过。’当时众比丘(Bhiksu,佛教僧侣)将此事禀告佛陀。佛陀说:‘如果杀害阿罗汉,就是断绝福田,犯下逆罪,也破坏我的教法,应当灭摈(驱逐),令其还俗。你们这些比丘!如果有人来请求出家,比丘应当问:‘你没有杀害阿罗汉吧?’如果不问,就犯了越法罪。’ 具寿邬波离(Upali,佛陀的弟子)禀告佛陀说:‘如果有人,先前曾经出家,破坏僧伽(Samgha,僧团),之后又来请求出家,应当允许他出家吗?’佛陀说:‘不应当。’佛陀告诉邬波离:‘从今以后,如果有人来想要出家,比丘应当问:‘你曾经破坏僧伽吗?’如果不是,就应当度化。如果不问,就犯了越法罪。’ 又禀告佛陀说:‘如果有人,对佛世尊(Buddha,觉悟者)生起恶逆之心,使佛陀身体出血。这个人志求佛法僧(Buddha-Dharma-Samgha,佛教三宝),内心喜欢出家修行梵行(Brahmacarya,清净的行为),对于这样的人,应当度化吗?’佛陀说:‘不应当。如果有人来请求出家,比丘应当问:‘你没有恶意使佛陀身体出血吧?’如果不是,就应当度化。如果不问,就犯了越法罪。’ 又禀告佛陀说:‘如果有人,先前曾经出家,在四波罗夷法(Parajika,四种根本戒律)中随便犯了其中一条,就立即还俗。后来对于善法,内心喜欢出家。应当度化吗?’佛陀说:‘不应当。如果有人来请求出家,比丘应当问:‘你曾经犯四重罪吗?’如果不问,就犯了越法罪。’ 佛陀在室罗筏城(Sravasti)逝多林给孤独园(Jetavana Anathapindika-arama)中。佛陀告诉众比丘:‘如果有比丘做了不见举(不见罪的羯磨),因此就还俗。之后又来出家以及受近圆戒(Upasampada,比丘戒),受戒之后又造作各种罪行,不肯发露(忏悔)、我不见罪。如果像这样,僧伽应当给予灭摈。’

English

English version: ‘Disciples.’ He further asked: ‘Have these thieves killed Arhats (Arhat, an enlightened being)? Did you kill any?’ They replied: ‘We did.’ Then the Bhiksus (Bhiksu, Buddhist monks) reported this matter to the Buddha. The Buddha said: ‘If one kills an Arhat, it is cutting off the field of merit, committing a rebellious act, and also destroying my Dharma (teachings). They should be expelled and made to return to lay life. You Bhiksus! If someone comes seeking ordination, the Bhiksu should ask: ‘Have you not killed an Arhat?’ If they do not ask, they commit a transgression.’ The Venerable Upali (Upali, a disciple of the Buddha) said to the Buddha: ‘If someone previously ordained, destroyed the Samgha (Samgha, monastic community), and later comes seeking ordination again, should they be ordained?’ The Buddha said: ‘They should not.’ The Buddha told Upali: ‘From now on, if someone comes wanting to be ordained, the Bhiksu should ask: ‘Have you destroyed the Samgha?’ If not, they should be ordained. If they do not ask, they commit a transgression.’ He further said to the Buddha: ‘If someone, towards the Buddha, the World Honored One (Buddha, the awakened one), harbors malicious intent and causes the Buddha's body to bleed. If that person aspires to the Buddha, Dharma, and Samgha (Buddha-Dharma-Samgha, the Triple Gem of Buddhism), and delights in renouncing the household life to cultivate the Brahmacarya (Brahmacarya, pure conduct), should such a person be ordained?’ The Buddha said: ‘They should not. If someone comes seeking ordination, the Bhiksu should ask: ‘Have you not maliciously caused the Buddha's body to bleed?’ If not, they should be ordained. If they do not ask, they commit a transgression.’ He further said to the Buddha: ‘If someone previously ordained, violates any one of the four Parajikas (Parajika, four fundamental precepts), and immediately returns to lay life. Later, they delight in renouncing the household life for the sake of good Dharma. Should they be ordained?’ The Buddha said: ‘They should not. If someone comes seeking ordination, the Bhiksu should ask: ‘Have you committed any of the four major offenses?’ If they do not ask, they commit a transgression.’ The Buddha was in the Jeta Grove at Anathapindika's Park (Jetavana Anathapindika-arama) in Sravasti (Sravasti). The Buddha told the Bhiksus: ‘If a Bhiksu commits an act requiring suspension (karma for unseen offense), and therefore returns to lay life. Then they come back to be ordained and receive the full ordination (Upasampada, full ordination as a Bhiksu), and after receiving ordination, they commit various offenses, refusing to confess (repent), and I do not see the offense. If this is the case, the Samgha should expel them.’ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------