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7. Discussion on "Some Exist" 1. Discussion on "Some Past, etc." 299. Does the past exist? Some exists, some does not exist. Some has ceased, some has not ceased; some has vanished, some has not vanished; some has set, some has not set; some has completely set, some has not completely set? It should not be said thus... Does some past exist, some not exist? Yes. Do some past phenomena whose results have not ripened exist, some not exist? It should not be said thus... Does some past exist, some not exist? Yes. Do some past phenomena whose results have ripened exist, some not exist? It should not be said thus... Does some past exist, some not exist? Yes. Do some past phenomena without results exist, some not exist? It should not be said thus... Does some past exist, some not exist? Yes. What exists, what does not exist? Past phenomena whose results have not ripened – they exist; past phenomena whose results have ripened – they do not exist. Past phenomena whose results have not ripened – they exist? Yes. Past phenomena whose results have ripened – they exist? It should not be said thus... Past phenomena whose results have not ripened – they exist? Yes. Past phenomena without results – they exist? It should not be said thus... Past phenomena whose results have ripened – they do not exist? Yes. Past phenomena whose results have not ripened – they do not exist? It should not be said thus... Past phenomena without results – they do not exist? Yes. Past phenomena whose results have not ripened – they do not exist? It should not be said thus... Past phenomena whose results have not ripened – they exist? Yes. But surely past phenomena whose results have not ripened have ceased? Yes. If past phenomena whose results have not ripened have ceased, then it should not be said – "Past phenomena whose results have not ripened –" Those states ceased – do they exist? Past states, whose results have not ripened, ceased – do they exist? Yes. Past states, whose results have ripened, ceased – do they exist? It should not be said so (etc.). Past states, whose results have not ripened, ceased – do they exist? Yes. Past states, without results, ceased – do they exist? It should not be said so (etc.). Past states, whose results have ripened, ceased – do they not exist? Yes. Past states, whose results have not ripened, ceased – do they not exist? It should not be said so (etc.). Past states, without results, ceased – do they not exist? Yes. Past states, whose results have not ripened, ceased – do they not exist? It should not be said so (etc.). Past states, whose results have not ripened, ceased – do they exist? Yes. Past states, whose results have ripened, ceased – do they not exist? Yes. Past states, partly whose results have ripened, partly whose results have not ripened, ceased – do some of them exist and some not exist? It should not be said so (etc.). Should it not be said: "Past states, whose results have not ripened – do they exist?" Yes. Will not past states, whose results have not ripened, ripen? Yes. If past states, whose results have not ripened, will ripen, then indeed it should be said: "Past states, whose results have not ripened – do they exist." Are past states, whose results have not ripened, considered to exist because they will ripen? Yes. Are they considered present because they will ripen? It should not be said so (etc.). Are they considered present because they will ripen? Yes. Are present states considered not to exist because they will cease? It should not be said so (etc.). 2. Discussion on some aspects of the future 300. Does the future exist? Some exists, some does not exist. Some is born, some is unborn; some is produced, some is unproduced; some has arisen, some has not arisen; Some are manifest, some are not manifest? It should not be said thus... Is some of the future existent, and some non-existent? Yes. Are some future phenomena that arise existent, and some non-existent? It should not be said thus... Is some of the future existent, and some non-existent? Yes. Are some future phenomena that do not arise existent, and some non-existent? It should not be said thus... Is some of the future existent, and some non-existent? Yes. What is existent, what is non-existent? Future phenomena that arise – they are existent; future phenomena that do not arise – they are non-existent. Are future phenomena that arise – they existent? Yes. Are future phenomena that do not arise – they existent? It should not be said thus... Are future phenomena that do not arise – they non-existent? Yes. Are future phenomena that arise – they non-existent? It should not be said thus... Are future phenomena that arise – they existent? Yes. Are not future phenomena that arise unborn? Yes. If future phenomena that arise are unborn, then it should certainly not be said – "future phenomena that arise – they are existent." Are future phenomena that arise, being unborn – they existent? Yes. Are future phenomena that do not arise, being unborn – they existent? It should not be said thus... Are future phenomena that do not arise, being unborn – they non-existent? Yes. Are future phenomena that arise, being unborn – they non-existent? It should not be said thus... Should it not be said – "future phenomena that arise – they are existent"? Yes. Will not future phenomena that arise arise? Yes. If future phenomena that arise will arise, then it should certainly be said – "future phenomena that arise – they are existent." Are future phenomena that arise existent, on the grounds that they will arise? Yes. Are they present, on the grounds that they will arise? It should not be said thus... Are they present, on the grounds that they will arise? Yes. Are present phenomena non-existent, on the grounds that they will cease? No. Thus it should be said, etc. The discussion on 'something exists' is concluded.