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6. Discussion on Past Aggregates, etc. 1. Not Established by Sutta 297. Is it past aggregates? Yes. Does the past exist? It should not be said thus... Is it past sense-bases? Yes. Does the past exist? It should not be said thus... Is it past elements? Yes. Does the past exist? It should not be said thus... Are they past aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Yes. Does the past exist? It should not be said thus... Is it future aggregates? Yes. Does the future exist? It should not be said thus... Is it future sense-bases? Yes. Does the future exist? It should not be said thus... Is it future elements? Yes. Does the future exist? It should not be said thus... Are they future aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Yes. Does the future exist? It should not be said thus... Do present aggregates exist as present? Yes. Do past aggregates exist as past? It should not be said thus... Do present sense-bases exist as present? Yes. Do past sense-bases exist as past? It should not be said thus... Do present elements exist as present? Yes. Do past elements exist as past? It should not be said thus... Do present aggregates, elements, sense-bases exist as present? Yes. Do past aggregates, elements, sense-bases exist as past? It should not be said thus... Do present aggregates exist as present? Yes. Do future aggregates exist as future? It should not be said thus... Do present sense-bases exist as present? Yes. Do future sense-bases exist as future? It should not be said thus... Do present elements exist as present? Yes. Do future elements exist as future? It should not be said thus... Do present aggregates, elements, sense-bases exist as present? Yes. Do future aggregates, elements, sense-bases exist as future? It should not be said thus... Do past aggregates not exist as past? Yes. Present... Are present aggregates not present? It should not be said thus. Are past sense-bases not past? Yes. Are present sense-bases not present? It should not be said thus. Are past elements not past? Yes. Are present elements not present? It should not be said thus. Are past aggregates, elements, sense-bases not past? Yes. Are present aggregates, elements, sense-bases not present? It should not be said thus. Are future aggregates not future? Yes. Are present aggregates not present? It should not be said thus. Are future sense-bases not future? Yes. Are present sense-bases not present? It should not be said thus. Are future elements not future? Yes. Are present elements not present? It should not be said thus. Are future aggregates, elements, sense-bases not future? Yes. Are present aggregates, elements, sense-bases not present? It should not be said thus. Is past form an aggregate? Yes. Does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is past form a sense-base? Yes. Does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is past form an element? Yes. Does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is past form an aggregate, element, sense-base? Yes. Does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is future form an aggregate? Yes. Does future form exist? It should not be said thus. Is future form a sense-base? Yes. Does future form exist? It should not be said thus. Is future form an element? Yes. Does future form exist? It should not be said thus. Is future form an aggregate, element, sense-base? Yes. Does future form exist? It should not be said thus. Is present form an aggregate, and does present form exist? Yes. Is past form an aggregate, and does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is present form a sense-base, and does present form exist? Yes. Is past form a sense-base, and does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is present form an element, and does present form exist? Yes. Is past form an element, and does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is present form an aggregate, element, sense-base, and does present form exist? Yes. Is past form an aggregate, element, sense-base, and does past form exist? It should not be said thus. Is present form an aggregate? Does present form exist? Yes. Is future form an aggregate? Does future form exist? It should not be said so. ... Is present form a sense-base? Is present form an element? Is present form aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Does present form exist? Yes. Is future form aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Does future form exist? It should not be said so. ... Is past form an aggregate? Does past form not exist? Yes. Is present form an aggregate? Does present form not exist? It should not be said so. ... Is past form a sense-base? Is past form an element? Is past form aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Does past form not exist? Yes. Is present form aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Does present form not exist? It should not be said so. ... Is future form an aggregate? Does future form not exist? Yes. Is present form an aggregate? Does present form not exist? It should not be said so. ... Is future form a sense-base? Is future form an element? Is future form aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Does future form not exist? Yes. Is present form aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Does present form not exist? It should not be said so. ... Is past feeling, past perception, past formations, past consciousness an aggregate? Yes. Does past consciousness exist? It should not be said so. ... Is past consciousness a sense-base? Is past consciousness an element? Is past consciousness aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Yes. Does past consciousness exist? It should not be said so. ... Is future consciousness an aggregate? Yes. Does future consciousness exist? It should not be said so. ... Is future consciousness a sense-base? Is future consciousness an element? Is future consciousness aggregates, elements, sense-bases? Yes. Does future consciousness exist? It should not be said so. ... Present consciousness... Is present consciousness a constituent? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Is past consciousness a constituent? Is past consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Is present consciousness a sense-base? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Is past consciousness a sense-base? Is past consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Is present consciousness an element? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Is past consciousness an element? Is past consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Are present consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Are past consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is past consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Is present consciousness a constituent? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Is future consciousness a constituent? Is future consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Is present consciousness a sense-base? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Is future consciousness a sense-base? Is future consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Is present consciousness an element? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Is future consciousness an element? Is future consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Are present consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is present consciousness existent? Yes. Are future consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is future consciousness existent? It should not be said so. Is past consciousness a constituent? Is past consciousness non-existent? Yes. Is present consciousness a constituent? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. Is past consciousness a sense-base? Is past consciousness non-existent? Yes. Is present consciousness a sense-base? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. Is past consciousness an element? Is past consciousness non-existent? Yes. Is present consciousness an element? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. Are past consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is past consciousness non-existent? Yes. Are present consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. Is future consciousness a constituent? Is future consciousness non-existent? Yes. Is present consciousness a constituent? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. Is future consciousness a sense-base? Is future consciousness non-existent? Yes. Is present consciousness a sense-base? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. Is future consciousness an element? Is future consciousness non-existent? Yes. Is present consciousness an element? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. Are future consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is future consciousness non-existent? Yes. Are present consciousness constituents, elements, sense-bases? Is present consciousness non-existent? It should not be said so. 2. Establishing by Sutta 298. Should it not be said: "Are past and future constituents, elements, sense-bases non-existent?" Yes. And it was said by the Blessed One: "These three, monks, are ways of expression, ways of designation, ways of concept... ...by the wise..." Is there such a discourse? Yes. Therefore, it should not be said: "Past and future aggregates, elements, sense-bases do not exist." Do past and future aggregates, elements, sense-bases not exist? Yes. Was it not said by the Blessed One: "Whatever, monks, form, past, future, or present, internal or external, gross or subtle, inferior or superior, far or near, this is called the aggregate of form. Whatever feeling... whatever perception... whatever formations... whatever consciousness, past, future, or present... ...this is called the aggregate of consciousness." Is there such a discourse? Yes. Therefore, it should not be said: "Past and future aggregates, elements, sense-bases do not exist." The discussion on past aggregates, etc., is concluded.