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B01030505sabbamatthītikathā (all principles debate)

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It should not be said thus (etc.). Is there past form? Does past form not abandon its past state? Is past form impermanent, unstable, not eternal, subject to change? Yes. Is there Nibbana? Does Nibbana not abandon its Nibbana-state? Is Nibbana impermanent, unstable, not eternal, subject to change? It should not be said thus (etc.). Is there past feeling...? Is there past perception...? Past formations exist. Past consciousness exists. Does past consciousness not abandon its past state? Yes. Future consciousness exists. Does future consciousness not abandon its future state? It should not be said so. Past consciousness exists. Does past consciousness not abandon its past state? Yes. Present consciousness exists. Does present consciousness not abandon its present state? It should not be said so. Future consciousness exists. Does future consciousness abandon its future state? Yes. Past consciousness exists. Does past consciousness abandon its past state? It should not be said so. Present consciousness exists. Does present consciousness abandon its present state? Yes. Past consciousness exists. Does past consciousness abandon its past state? It should not be said so. Past consciousness exists. Does past consciousness not abandon its past state? Yes. Is past consciousness permanent, stable, eternal, not subject to change? It should not be said so. Is not past consciousness impermanent, unstable, non-eternal, subject to change? Yes. If past consciousness is impermanent, unstable, non-eternal, subject to change, then it should certainly not be said: "Past consciousness exists, past consciousness does not abandon its past state." Nibbana exists. Does Nibbana not abandon its Nibbana-state? Is Nibbana permanent, stable, eternal, not subject to change? Yes. Past consciousness exists. Does past consciousness not abandon its past state? Is past consciousness permanent, stable, eternal, not subject to change? It should not be said so. Past consciousness exists. Past consciousness does not abandon its past state. Past consciousness is impermanent, unstable. Is it impermanent, subject to change? Yes. Is Nibbana, which exists, Nibbana, which does not abandon its Nibbana-nature, impermanent, unstable, not eternal, subject to change? It should not be said so... and so on. Clarification of Terms 288. Is there a past? Yes. If there is no past, then "there is a past" is wrong. Or if there is no past, then "there is a past" is wrong. Is there a future? Yes. If there is no future, then "there is a future" is wrong. Or if there is no future, then "there is a future" is wrong. Does the future become the present? Yes. Is that same future that present? It should not be said so... and so on. Is that same future that present? Yes. Does it become and exist, become and exist? It should not be said so... and so on. Does it become and exist, become and exist? Yes. Does it not become and not exist, not become and not exist? It should not be said so... and so on. Does the present become the past? Yes. Is that same present that past? It should not be said so... and so on. Is that same present that past? Yes. Does it become and exist, become and exist? It should not be said so... and so on. Does it become and exist, become and exist? Yes. Does it not become and not exist, not become and not exist? It should not be said so... and so on. Does the future become the present, and the present become the past? Yes. Is that same future that present, that past? It should not be said so... and so on. Is that same future that present, that past? Yes. Does it become and exist, become and exist? It should not be said so... and so on. Does it become and exist, become and exist? Yes. Does it not become and not exist, not become and not exist? It should not be said so. Discourse on the Past Eye and Forms, etc. 289. Is there a past eye, are there past forms, is there past eye-consciousness, is there past light, is there past attention? Yes. Does one see a past form with a past eye? It should not be said so... and so on. Is there a past ear, are there past sounds, is there past ear-consciousness, is there past space Is there attention? Yes. Is there a past eye, are there past forms, is there past eye-consciousness, is there light, is there attention? Yes. Does one see a past form with a past eye? It should not be said thus. Is there a past ear, are there past sounds, is there past ear-consciousness, is there space, is there attention? Yes. Does one hear a past sound with a past ear? It should not be said thus. Is there a past nose, are there past smells, is there past nose-consciousness, is there wind, is there attention? Yes. Does one smell a past smell with a past nose? It should not be said thus. Is there a past tongue, are there past tastes, is there past tongue-consciousness, is there water, is there attention? Yes. Does one taste a past taste with a past tongue? It should not be said thus. Is there a past body, are there past tangibles, is there past body-consciousness, is there earth, is there attention? Yes. Does one touch a past tangible with a past body? It should not be said thus. Is there a past mind, are there past mental phenomena, is there past mind-consciousness, is there a basis, is there attention? Yes. Does one cognize a past mental phenomenon with a past mind? It should not be said thus. Is there a future eye, are there future forms, is there future eye-consciousness, is there light, is there attention? Yes. Does one see a future form with a future eye? It should not be said thus. Is there a future ear, are there future sounds, is there future ear-consciousness, is there space, is there attention? Yes. Does one hear a future sound with a future ear? It should not be said thus. Is there a future nose, are there future smells, is there future nose-consciousness, is there wind, is there attention? Yes. Does one smell a future smell with a future nose? It should not be said thus. Is there a future tongue, are there future tastes, is there future tongue-consciousness, is there water, is there attention? Yes. Does one taste a future taste with a future tongue? It should not be said thus. Is there a future body, are there future tangibles, is there future body-consciousness, is there earth, is there attention? Yes. Does one touch a future tangible with a future body? It should not be said thus. Is there a future mind, are there future mental phenomena, is there future mind-consciousness, is there a basis, is there attention? Yes. Does one cognize a future mental phenomenon with a future mind? It should not be said thus. Is there a present eye, are there present forms, is there present eye-consciousness, is there light, is there attention? Does one see a present form with a present eye? Yes. Is there a past eye, are there past forms, is there past eye-consciousness, is there light, is there attention? Does one see a past form with a past eye? It should not be said thus. Is there a present ear, are there present sounds, is there present ear-consciousness, is there space, is there attention? Does one hear a present sound with a present ear? Yes. Is there a past ear, are there past sounds, is there past ear-consciousness, is there space, is there attention? Does one hear a past sound with a past ear? It should not be said thus. Is there a present nose, are there present smells, is there present nose-consciousness, is there wind, is there attention? Does one smell a present smell with a present nose? Yes. Is there a past nose, are there past smells, is there past nose-consciousness, is there wind, is there attention? Does one smell a past smell with a past nose? It should not be said thus. Is there a present tongue, are there present tastes, is there present tongue-consciousness, is there water, is there attention? Does one taste a present taste with a present tongue? Yes. Is there a past tongue, are there past tastes, is there past tongue-consciousness, is there water, is there attention? Does one taste a past taste with a past tongue? It should not be said thus. Is there a present body, are there present tangibles, is there present body-consciousness, is there earth, is there attention? Does one touch a present tangible with a present body? Yes. Is there a past body, are there past tangibles, is there past body-consciousness, is there earth, is there attention? Does one touch a past tangible with a past body? It should not be said thus. Is there a present mind, are there present mental phenomena, is there present mind-consciousness, is there a basis, is there attention? Does one cognize a present mental phenomenon with a present mind? Yes. Is there a past Is there a past mind? Are there past mental objects? Is there past mind-consciousness? Is there a past base? Is there past attention? Does one discern a past mental object with a past mind? It should not be said thus. Is there a present eye? Are there present forms? Is there present eye-consciousness? Is there present light? Is there present attention? Does one see a present form with a present eye? Yes. Is there a future eye? Are there future forms? Is there future eye-consciousness? Is there future light? Is there future attention? Does one see a future form with a future eye? It should not be said thus. Is there a present mind? Are there present mental objects? Is there present mind-consciousness? Is there a present base? Is there present attention? Does one discern a present mental object with a present mind? Yes. Is there a future mind? Are there future mental objects? Is there future mind-consciousness? Is there a future base? Is there future attention? Does one discern a future mental object with a future mind? It should not be said thus. Is there a past eye? Are there past forms? Is there past eye-consciousness? Is there past light? Is there past attention? And does one not see a past form with a past eye? Yes. Is there a present eye?