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within arm’s reach of the man, an offense of pācittiya. “Should converse” means converses while standing within arm’s reach of the man, an offense of pācittiya. If she stands or converses having gone beyond arm’s reach, an offense of dukkaṭa. If she stands or converses with a yakkha or a peta or a paṇḍaka or a human in animal form, an offense of dukkaṭa. 849. There is no offense if there is any intelligent second person, if she is looking for an arahant, if she stands or converses with her mind on something else, if she is insane, if she is the first offender. The third rule of training is finished. 4. The Fourth Rule of Training 850. At that time the Buddha, the Blessed One, was dwelling at Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. Now at that time, the nun Thullanandā would stand and converse alone with a man in the street, at a crossroads, at a public square, and would whisper into his ear, and would send away the second nun. Those nuns who were of few wishes…and so on… they complained, grumbled, criticized— “How can it be…” How can it be, venerable Thullanandā, that you would stand alone, or converse alone, or whisper in the ear, or send away a second nun, with a man in a street, or at a crossroads, or at a public square? ... Is it true, monks, that the nun Thullanandā stands alone, or converses alone, or whispers in the ear, or sends away a second nun, with a man in a street, or at a crossroads, or at a public square? "It is true, Blessed One." The Buddha, the Blessed One, rebuked her... How can it be, monks, that the nun Thullanandā would stand alone, or converse alone, or whisper in the ear, or send away a second nun, with a man in a street, or at a crossroads, or at a public square? This, monks, is not for the conversion of the unconverted... And thus, monks, the nuns should recite this rule of training: 851. "Whatever nun should stand alone, or converse alone, or whisper in the ear, or send away a second nun, with a man in a street, or at a crossroads, or at a public square, it is an offense of expiation." 852. "Whatever nun" means whatever kind of nun... "Nun" means... a nun is intended in this context. "Street" means a road. "Crossroads" means where they enter and exit by the same way. "Public square" means a meeting place. "Man" means a human male, not a yakkha, not a peta, not an animal, one who is intelligent, capable of standing and conversing. "With" means together. "Alone" means there is only the man and the nun. "Should stand alone" means she stands within arm's reach of the man: an offense of expiation. "Should converse alone" means standing within arm's reach of the man, she converses: an offense of expiation. "Should whisper in the ear" means she speaks into the man's ear: an offense of expiation. "Should send away a second nun" means desiring to act improperly, she sends away a second nun. an offense of dukkaṭa. If she leaves the seeing range or the hearing range, there is an offense of dukkaṭa. If she has left, there is an offense of pācittiya. Having left the arm's length, if she stands or converses, there is an offense of dukkaṭa. If she stands or converses with a yakkha, or a peta, or a paṇḍaka, or a human-bodied animal, there is an offense of dukkaṭa. 853. There is no offense if there is any discerning second person, if she is looking after an arahant, if she stands or converses being otherwise occupied, if she does not intend to act improperly, if, when there is a task, she sends away the second nun, for a madwoman, for the first offender. The fourth training rule is finished. 5. The Fifth Training Rule 854. At that time, the Buddha, the Blessed One, was staying at Sāvatthī, in Jeta's Grove, in Anāthapiṇḍika's monastery. Now at that time, a certain nun was a regular visitor to a certain family, receiving constant alms. Then that nun, having dressed in the morning, took her bowl and robe and went to that family; having gone and sat on a seat, she departed without asking the owners. The slave woman of that family, sweeping the house, put that seat among the dishes. The people, not seeing that seat, said to that nun, "Where is that seat, venerable lady?" "I do not see that seat, friends," she said. "Give us that seat, venerable lady!" they scolded her and cut off her constant alms. Then those people, cleaning the house, saw that seat among the dishes, and having apologized to that nun, they restored her constant alms. Then that nun reported this matter to the nuns. Those nuns who were of few desires...pe... they complained, grumbled, and criticized, "How can a nun, before mealtime, go to families, sit on a seat, and depart without asking the owners?"...pe... "Is it true, monks, that a nun, before mealtime, goes to families and sits on a seat..." having gone, without asking the owners, she departed?” “It is true, Blessed One.” The Buddha, the Blessed One, rebuked her… “How can it be, bhikkhunīs, that a bhikkhunī, before noon, having gone to families, having sat on a seat, without asking the owners, should depart? This, bhikkhunīs, is not for the conversion of the unconverted… And thus, bhikkhunīs, should you recite this rule of training: “Whatever bhikkhunī, before noon, having gone to families, having sat on a seat, without asking the owners, should depart, it is a pācittiya.” “Whatever bhikkhunī” means any bhikkhunī of whatever kind… “Bhikkhunī” means… the bhikkhunī intended in this context. “Before noon” means from the rising of the sun until midday. “Family” means four kinds of families: khattiya families, brāhmaṇa families, vessa families, sudda families. “Having gone” means having gone there. “Seat” is said to be the place of a couch. “Having sat” means having sat on it. “Without asking the owners, should depart” means if, without asking the intelligent person in that family, she departs unannounced, there is an offense of pācittiya. If, in an open area, she departs beyond the boundary, there is an offense of pācittiya. If, without being asked, she departs with the perception of not being asked, there is an offense of pācittiya. If, without being asked, she departs with doubt, there is an offense of pācittiya. If, without being asked, she departs with the perception of being asked, there is an offense of pācittiya. If it is not the place of a couch, there is an offense of dukkaṭa. If asked, she has the perception of not being asked, there is an offense of dukkaṭa. If asked, she has doubt, there is an offense of dukkaṭa. If asked, she has the perception of being asked, there is no offense. There is no offense if she goes after asking, if it is not to be carried, if she is sick, in times of danger, if she is insane, if she is the first offender. The fifth rule of training is finished. 6. The Sixth Rule of Training At that time the Buddha, the Blessed One, was dwelling at Sāvatthī, in Jeta’s Grove, in Anāthapiṇḍika’s monastery. Now at that time, the bhikkhunī Thullanandā, after noon, having gone to families, having gone, without asking the owners, she sits down on the seat, or lies down on the seat. People, ashamed of the nun Thullanandā, neither sit down on the seat, nor lie down on the seat. People complain, murmur, and criticize: “How can the venerable Thullanandā, after the meal, having gone to families, without asking the owners, sit down on the seat, or lie down on the seat!” The nuns heard those people complaining, murmuring, and criticizing. Those nuns who were of few wishes… they complained, murmured, and criticized: “How can the venerable Thullanandā, after the meal, having gone to families, without asking the owners, sit down on the seat, or lie down on the seat!”… “Is it true, monks, that the nun Thullanandā, after the meal, having gone to families, without asking the owners, sits down on the seat, or lies down on the seat?” “It is true, Blessed One.” The Buddha, the Blessed One, rebuked her… “How can, monks, the nun Thullanandā, after the meal, having gone to families, without asking the owners, sit down on the seat, or lie down on the seat! This, monks, is not for the conversion of the unconverted… And thus, monks, the nuns should recite this training rule: “Whatever nun, after the meal, having gone to families, without asking the owners, should sit down on the seat, or should lie down on the seat, it is a pācittiya.” Whatever means: whoever, of whatever kind… Nun means… this nun is intended in this context. After the meal means: when midday has passed, until the sun has set. Family means four kinds of families: Khattiya family, Brāhmaṇa family, Vessa family, Sudda family. Having gone means: having gone there. Without asking the owners means: without asking the person who is the owner, the giver, in that family. Seat means: the space of a couch. Should sit down means: on that, to sit down. Sits down, an offense of pācittiya. Intending to lie down, lies down on it, an offense of pācittiya. 862. Without being asked, with the perception of not being asked, sits down or lies down on a seat, an offense of pācittiya. Without being asked, with doubt, sits down or lies down on a seat, an offense of pācittiya. Without being asked, with the perception of being asked, sits down or lies down on a seat, an offense of pācittiya. On a couch in an unsuitable place, an offense of dukkaṭa. When asked, with the perception of not being asked, an offense of dukkaṭa. When asked, with doubt, an offense of dukkaṭa. When asked, with the perception of being asked, no offense. 863. No offense having asked, sits down or lies down on a seat, when permanently designated, for a sick person, in times of danger, for one who is insane, for the first offender. The sixth training rule is finished. 7. The seventh training rule. 864. At that time, the Buddha, the Blessed One, was staying at Sāvatthī, in Jeta's Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika's monastery. Now at that time, many bhikkhunīs, traveling to Sāvatthī in the Kosala country,